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As to an LS7 427 Camaro, if someone of importance doesn't like the thought of it being called a "Z/28" (as happened with the Z/28 cum ZL1), then call the damn thing a COPO. At least GM owns that name, and no "consideration" would be required/expected... And NO...I do NOT want Barry Manilow doing a theme-song of the "COPO CAMARO"...!!! EDIT: Please keep in mind the "Heritage" (with a purposeful capital H) at play here. Gen-1 derived styling. Gen-1 derived naming. The original Z/28 was a homolagation-purposed vehicle, with a sub-305" engine, for Trans Am qualification. An "interim" offering. That's why only 602 were sold in '67. No one really knew about it...and it wasn't in the brochure. Had it NOT been for the 305"-max ruling by SCCA, a Z/28 quite likely would have had the then-current Vette 327-350 hp L79 as its motor-vation. "Off-the-shelf". EASY. The '69 ZL1 was an answer to NHRA's Super Stock requirement of "50-minimum", "Production-built". Like the Hemi 'Cudas and Darts of '68. Only Chev could do it totally on an assembly-line. Sadly, the beancounters decided ALL COSTS were to be passed along...$4,160 option!! That rationale exists today. "Play all you want, but the costs get passed along". So, in a timely fashion, enhancing an LS3 to Production standards comes with a price. Even more complex and expensive than it was in '69. While the LS7 sits at Wixom, waiting...far less "development" required. Far less cost per unit to "prepare for Production", if you will. THAT'S why the poll, a month ago, with only a "$5,000 differential"...and THAT'S why displacement is NOT an issue... COSTS are (and always will be). The disparity between a "hot" LS3 and an on-the-shelf ready-to-go LS7 is LESS than the costs "in the crate"...or, at least, should be... As to what's "under the cam", man I'm only concerned about "ON-CAM"...and that, my friends, plays to the LS7! Just like it did with the lil 302 back in the day... More "Heritage"! Last edited by LOWDOWN; 07-26-2011 at 12:20 PM. |
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07-26-2011, 01:23 PM | #689 | |
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The LS376 has a bit more power in the midrange, but the LS7 beats it both down low and up top. Plus, we know that the LS7 meets all of GM's durability & emissions requirements for passenger car applications. Can't say the same thing for the LS376.
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07-26-2011, 01:36 PM | #690 |
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...and if you visit a Vette Z06 forum, or LS1 forum, you'll know @ 505/470 the LS7 ain't breakin' a sweat...
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07-26-2011, 02:15 PM | #691 |
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Number 3,
Is there a minimum number of LS7's that must be made each year? and is the Z06 maintaining this number safely?
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07-26-2011, 03:14 PM | #692 |
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Blizzard, Z06 Production Figures are as follows:
2006 = 6272 2007 = 8159 2008 = 7731 2009 = 3461 2010 = 518 (!); ZR1 = 1577 * Does not include "crate engine" production I'd say there's room @ the Wixom Inn for LS7 "occupancy"... |
07-26-2011, 03:17 PM | #693 |
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This is what I am guessing, but I still think there is some news about the GenV V8's to come shortly with relation to the Z28.
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07-26-2011, 03:24 PM | #694 |
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According to GM's "tentative" production plans, the next-Gen Vette is slated for MY-14...sometime in '13?...and Gen-6 Camaro for MY-15...so will we see a next-Gen V8 in a this-Gen Camaro?
That would be a $64 (at least!) question... If there's an "edict" that the new V8 is Vette-first, and the Camaro is to follow at a discrete distance, then a current-Gen Z/28 requires a current-Gen ready-to-go powerplant. |
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07-27-2011, 05:39 PM | #700 |
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not a fan of the ls7. me want thicker walls. . .
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