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Zabo · 11-05-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Congrats Goerge. For having more money that everyone else.

World Series 2009: proof that money can buy you happiness.

POWERFREAK · 11-05-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zabo

World Series 2009: proof that money can buy you happiness.

knew that was just a matter of time.

fact is most of the teams CAN afford a huge payroll, but they choose to line their own pockets instead.

AZCamaroFan · 11-05-2009, 09:10 AM

Yeah, and all the good teams have "big" payrolls. Plus the Yankees overpay. No one else would have given Rodriguez or Sabathia what they got. Even their own players, like Jeter, they've paid top dollar to keep. Look at the Mets. They pay huge money and lose or choke every year. The Red Sox called them the evil empire, and practically evreybody on their 2004 team came from somewhere else. I'm pretty sure when they signed manny ramirez for $160 million the Indians fans didn't think the Red Sox were a benevolent little team.
When the Yankees won their last 4 titles it was with home grown players, older guys like Boggs, Strawberry, and some good solid guys like O'Neill and Tino Martinez. They weren't a big power team. They've actually been less successful since they started signing more free agents. All a big salary guarantees you is that the player has already reached his peak.

POWERFREAK · 11-05-2009, 09:59 AM

Texeria, Sabathia, Burnett, A-Rod= $700+ million in salary
New Stadium= $1.5 Billion...
Being Able to tell Red Sox fans, Mets fans and all other haters to piss-off = PRICELESS!!!!

AZCamaroFan · 11-05-2009, 10:01 AM

I don't think i'd include Swisher with those guys.

POWERFREAK · 11-05-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by azfan

I don't think i'd include Swisher with those guys.

OK, fixed...The White-sox signed him to a crazy contract and then dumped him to the Yanks. He had a good season.

Iwantone2 · 11-05-2009, 11:21 AM

As long as the darned Angels didn't win, i'm happy

Go Yankees!!!!

AZCamaroFan · 11-05-2009, 11:26 AM

and you're in orange county?

PQ · 11-05-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

knew that was just a matter of time.

fact is most of the teams CAN afford a huge payroll, but they choose to line their own pockets instead.

NOT true. Where did you hear this. Yes, a lot of teams could spend more but MOST don't have it. Not in the way the Yankees, and Red Sox do.

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Originally Posted by coolman

No different than anything else, the most money wins. If I was a superstar baseball player I would be were I could get the most pay. Nascar is the same way Hendrick has the most money so he buys the best people and wins all the races.

I'm not criticising the Yanks or anyone else. I am a BIG defender of A-Rod. Anyone who says they wouldn't have taken the TRs contract A-Rod took is a liar. And I say that boldly. I'm all about opportunity and capitalism.

kjd15 · 11-05-2009, 11:40 AM

Yay for the Yankees and all the fans! #27!!

PQ · 11-05-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by coolman

I didn't think you were. I was just stating that baseball isn't the only place it happens. You know, It's the good old USA.

Yup. The NFL has the salary cap AND the CBA.

billw501 · 11-05-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

Texeria, Sabathia, Burnett, A-Rod= $700+ million in salary
New Stadium= $1.5 Billion...
Being Able to tell Red Sox fans, Mets fans and all other haters to piss-off = PRICELESS!!!!

I applaud your loyalty. As a Braves fan, I hate the Yankees, but they played hard and deserve their 27th.

POWERFREAK · 11-05-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

NOT true. Where did you hear this. Yes, a lot of teams could spend more but MOST don't have it. Not in the way the Yankees, and Red Sox do.

just because "on paper" some teams "loose money"...doesn't mean it's true. ALL owners are loaded and most just are not willing to put $$ back into the team's payroll. This season was tough because of the economy, but leading up to this year, attendance was it's highest ever...add in TV $$, merch $$ etc...it's all at it's all time high. Additionally, the luxury tax that they Yankees pay to all the smaller market teams should help them sign players.

I admit that the Yanks give themselves an advantage by spending more money...but they make more than all the other teams, so why not??? And it's not like teams with low payrolls never win. The biggest advantage it gives them is the ability to overcome bad signings. If they sign a $15mil $$ bust, it doesn't hurt them...if the Royals sign a big $$ bust, it hurts a little more.

But also consider that the core of the team came up through their system, so winning also comes from good drafting, development and smart trades. As they've proved for the last 9 years, big free agents don't always win.

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Originally Posted by billw501

I applaud your loyalty. As a Braves fan, I hate the Yankees, but they played hard and deserve their 27th.

Glad to hear it coming from a Braves fan (instead of just bringing up payroll). Yes, I'm very loyal...still remember my first game...in 1979...I was 6. I still have the ticket stub.

Iwantone2 · 11-05-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by azfan

and you're in orange county?

Yep

Angels =

(no disrespect to anyone)

11-05-2009, 09:59 AM	#18
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11-05-2009, 11:21 AM	#21
Iwantone2 Voice Of The Voiceless Drives: CGM 1SS RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OC Cali Posts: 9,617 View My Garage	As long as the darned Angels didn't win, i'm happy Go Yankees!!!! __________________

11-05-2009, 11:40 AM	#24
kjd15 Finally!! Drives: '10 2LT Summit white, '68 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Westchester, NY Posts: 1,075	Yay for the Yankees and all the fans! #27!! __________________ -Karen SW 2LT Ordered 9/30/09 November 28, 2009 - Delivered!!!

11-05-2009, 09:10 AM	#17
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	Yeah, and all the good teams have "big" payrolls. Plus the Yankees overpay. No one else would have given Rodriguez or Sabathia what they got. Even their own players, like Jeter, they've paid top dollar to keep. Look at the Mets. They pay huge money and lose or choke every year. The Red Sox called them the evil empire, and practically evreybody on their 2004 team came from somewhere else. I'm pretty sure when they signed manny ramirez for $160 million the Indians fans didn't think the Red Sox were a benevolent little team. When the Yankees won their last 4 titles it was with home grown players, older guys like Boggs, Strawberry, and some good solid guys like O'Neill and Tino Martinez. They weren't a big power team. They've actually been less successful since they started signing more free agents. All a big salary guarantees you is that the player has already reached his peak.

11-05-2009, 10:01 AM	#19
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	I don't think i'd include Swisher with those guys.

11-05-2009, 11:26 AM	#22
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,450	and you're in orange county?