Do you think that the car needs a separate Clutch Fluid reservoir

[Dexman1349]

Originally Posted by flht99b

Just my opinion but the GM GTO ( Holden ) reservoir is the way to go. No one has the R&D money GM has to develop this piece. It works on the GTO and I hazard to say there are over a thousand of us running them on the Camaro. And yes, every manual shift gen 5 Camaro should have had a remote clutch reservoir ( like the Corvette and GTO have from the factory ). The idea of getting clutch dust into the brake hydraulic system which is what happens with a shared ( 5th gen Camaro ) brake/clutch hydraulic reservoir system is just absurd. Plus the difficulty of flushing/bleeding the clutch hydraulic system is magnified when the brakes and clutch share the same reservoir. I can tell you the GM engineers who looked at my separate/remote clutch reservoir setup at the 3rd C5 fest at Indy this past August were both impressed as well as admitted the addition of the separate clutch reservoir makes good "real world" sense.
Ed M.

Installed mine over the weekend and very impressed with the ease of doing this. Seriously, for the price of parts and a couple hours of your time, you really can't go wrong with doing it. It's cheap insurance.

Now all that's left is a good clutch & brake system flush which will probably be scheduled with the 30k maintenance appointment.

[flht99b]

Depending on the usage of your car ( track or just normal street driving ) you may find you'll want to flush the clutch hydraulic system more often. I see clutch dust in mine in as little as 8K street miles.
Ed M.

[IDEALG]

Originally Posted by Mgizzle

You are not missing anything but separating it from brakes is the whole point. First, lot less fluid to take care off. Second, makes bleeding brakes a lot easier since it is separated from the clutch now.

A bit before I take my car out of the garage next year I am going to bleed my brakes with some racing blue and separating the reservoirs is going to be so much easier so that I don't have to worry about the clutch for the time being. It will allow me to use different fluids too etc.

Now if someone would only sell me a reservoir with a bracket!!! please

I have reservoirs but mine don't come with the bracket. I install then on the inside of the front fender. I have pics if you want to see.

[Dexman1349]

Originally Posted by flht99b

Depending on the usage of your car ( track or just normal street driving ) you may find you'll want to flush the clutch hydraulic system more often. I see clutch dust in mine in as little as 8K street miles.
Ed M.

I'm at 26k now and haven't done one yet. I replaced as much fluid as possible by draining the brake reservoir then filling both reservoirs with new fluid when installing (making sure to not introduce air pockets). That should at least get me the last 4k before I get everything flushed, and seeing as the car isn't driven as often once the snow flies, it probably won't be until spring. I'd like to upgrade both fluids to a DOT4, but we'll see how things go.

[RichieSSZ28]

Originally Posted by Blue70SS

They actually have a good point. Brake fluid shouldn't be vented..... everytime air is exchanged, humidity gets sucked out of the air into the fluid - which breaks it down quicker. It's the same reason why you don't want to leave a bottle a brake fluid open to the air - it shortens the life. That why brake fluids have "dry" and "wet" boiling points. New fluid doesn't compress as much (good) as old fluid that is getting towards the "wet" side. The older fluid with higher water content will lead to a softer pedal and actually can boil (depending on the fluid quality) when pushed really hard with burnouts, which would put air in the line.

That was part of the reason I chose the reservoir I did. It has a baffle top that lets the fluid move up and down and not slosh around so much on hard driving - something more important with high end motorcycles.

One other thing that may explain the difference in feel between the two reservoirs - the inside diameter of the Ring Brothers may have been bigger than the GTO. When I had the GTO one, we had drilled it out larger to flow better - and yes, it does help. Did you make sure the hose ran uphill from the clutch master cylinder to reservoir? If there are any high spots, air can get trapped...... even if doing the fluid swap/pumping method.

I actually mounted the reservoir parallel with the master cylinder. I don't drive the car hard at all. I rarely even drive it but when I want to get on it or a Mustang gets beside me I don't like not being able to clutch properly. I understand the fluid can possibly get air and moisture inside. The level was still halfway just like it was when I installed it 6 months ago. I'm going to flush the fluid real god this time and see the issue. The ports is an 1/4" with a push lock end. The volume is efficient and flow. It should just travel back and forth. Could HP have this effect on a stock clutch?? I have a tune, Headers, exhaust, CAI plus a MGW short throw shifter. So I am able to shift quicker. I don't know the true capabilities on a stock clutch. I have seen something at 450HP. I'm sure I'm above this mark.

[IndeedSS1]

I have one of the larger capacity reservoirs shown here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=544

It is brand new and for sale. It is the complete res, bracket, and two spring clips. PM me if you are interested.

[Klepton]

Originally Posted by Imjaybird

Here is my upgrade, thanks again to 2SSRS!
My fluid was turned dark after only 7k.

Originally Posted by caverman

Thanks to Imjaybird's design, I got a new bracket. Now mines level. I also got the edmp plug as well.

Are either of you guys selling one of these brackets? I prefer these bent ones because they allow the use of the stock brake/clutch hose.

Originally Posted by 2SSRS

All you had to do is PM me i have them all day long.

Are you still selling the GTO clutch reservoirs? If so, please PM me with the details for purchasing one.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by Klepton

Are either of you guys selling one of these brackets? I prefer these bent ones because they allow the use of the stock brake/clutch hose.

Are you still selling the GTO clutch reservoirs? If so, please PM me with the details for purchasing one.

Yes. You can buy one on gen5diy.com

[Klepton]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Yes. You can buy one on gen5diy.com

Thanks Stig, but unfortunately I don't need the whole kit he sells. I think it's a great kit because it provides everything you need for this mod (including a Syringe). However, it's for those that want to attach the clutch reservoir to the strut tower (or some other location), which doesn't require a bracket but does require a longer hose than the stock one. What I'm looking for is a bent bracket to attach the clutch reservoir to the brake reservoir and still have the clutch reservoir close enough to the stock brake reservoir line to use it.

[JDP Motorsports]

We've got a complete kit with the bracket, hardware, hose and cap. We also offer a Stage II with the Automatic Camaro brake reservoir with the molded factory cap. Our thread is HERE.

Stage I


Stage II


It's a simple install and everything is included with our kits.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Bump for the new guys.

[GVA 45TH 2SS]

I read the 1st 10 pages but didn't see an answer.
When installing the reservoir how do you minimize the amount of air you get into the system? And how do you bleed the air out that will get in there on the clutch side?
What Brand fluid are most using?
Thanks

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Pump up the pedal 10 times fast then stop for 1 min and do it 1 more time( 10 times fast) i used a good brand and a dot 4.

[GVA 45TH 2SS]

Thanks, you didn't have to prime the hose from the res 1st?
Just hook everything up then fill the res with fluid, then pump the pedal?