07-25-2010, 10:28 AM | #29 |
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07-25-2010, 10:37 AM | #30 |
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07-25-2010, 10:55 AM | #31 | |
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07-27-2010, 09:05 PM | #32 |
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will the ceramic pads wear the rotors out quicker?
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07-28-2010, 03:08 AM | #33 |
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Depends on which "ceramic" pads you run and how you drive on them. Remember, to qualify for the ceramic label, an otherwise normal semi-metallic pad needs to have at least 7% ceramic content. Most of the time, pad manufacturers are using beach sand and/or other silicates. Silicates are also used for.....sandpaper.
From what I've seen, many "ceramic" pads are a bit harder on rotors for drivers that are easy on the brake pedal. As the temperatures rise a bit, they aren't as aggressive on the iron. We also need to remember that Brembo currently uses high carbon content iron for their OE rotors, which makes them somewhat softer (and, ideally, slightly less likely to ring/squeal). Chris |
07-28-2010, 09:50 AM | #34 |
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Something has to give when you make a change in your car. The OE pads are relatively soft. As the ceramic content goes up the pad gets harder. The harder the pad the faster the rotors will wear would be a straight forward way to look at it.
Tires, brake pads and rotors are consumables on all cars. They are designed to wear out. The better they work the faster they wear out. You can put a hard high mileage tire on your car. The tires will last longer because they are 'hard'. They also will not grip the road as well as your OE Pirelli tires. Bridgestone RE-11s will grip the road much better than the Pirellis and wear out much faster than the Pirellis. My Cobalt Friction brake pads are AWESOME from the thermal attributes (the space shuttle uses a form or ceramic tile to insulate for reentry) to shorter stopping distance and less fade. They also wear out my rotors faster. I'll make that trade off all day long. That doesn't make it the right trade off for any other Camaro owner. The point of this long winded post is that there is no such thing as the perfect brake pad for all drivers. The way I used my OE brakes I had NO squeal. The way I bed my OE brakes is a bit different. On the track I do a 60 to 20 mph without stopping, then 80 to 20 mph, then 100 to 20 MPH then a 120 MPH to 20 without ever stopping followed by a gentle cool down lap. This conditions the rotors and pads to the use they will receive or destroys them if they are not up to the task. What works for one member may or may not work for the next. After all of this, I happen to think the OE pads are a pretty good combination street light track pad for the casual enthusiast. |
07-28-2010, 10:18 AM | #35 |
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Anyone concerned with brake dust can apply wheel wax. You can find it at properautocare.com.
If you clean your wheels and then apply it. It prevents brake dust from sticking. The next time you wash, it is much easier to rinse off without scrubbing or chemical cleaners. Off topic, but might help. |
07-28-2010, 10:20 AM | #36 |
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I am concerned about the brake noise. I was planning on changing to performance pads, but I would hate to end up with brake noise. Is changing the calipers the only way to avoid this?
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07-28-2010, 10:40 AM | #37 |
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07-28-2010, 10:51 AM | #38 |
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Pete,
This is John. You did my install at Sellers last fall. Sorry, I've been gone for quite awhile. Just getting back into the forum. I talked to Wretched Motorsports about completing a track extreme package. I'm headed to Richmond Motor Speedway next month. Are you going to be on the east coast anytime soon? |
07-28-2010, 11:27 AM | #39 | |
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Make sure you see Rob BEFORE your next track day. I will be in Ohio in a week for the Summit Mustang show on Saturday and then back to Summit in I think September for the Ohio Summit Camaro show. Please PM me you email address or send it to my email PGB@PeddersUSA.com |
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07-28-2010, 11:36 AM | #40 |
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thanks for the info.interesting post.
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07-28-2010, 12:02 PM | #41 |
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Pete,
Info sent. |
07-28-2010, 05:49 PM | #42 |
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