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jessrayo · 12-29-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZL1-V

It would also depends on how much height the curbs are set at your track and negative camber that has been set in the car wouldn't you think? How hard the contact with the curb is factors in. It's not a trophy truck where you need 18 inches of usable shock compression and rebound. No problems with my car so far. There would be rub marks on the fender well and tires correct? I have to get new tires soon for the front. I was driving yesterday thru my favorite roundabout and had a Triumph 650 motorcycle behind me of course. Damn Goodyears were sliding and pushing the front end through the turn due to it being 59 degrees outside. Not a good feeling when they feel that greasy.

Well, if you show no signs of contact then it must be alright. Where I run the curbs are about 1 foot wide and probably 4 to 6" tall, on the really tight corners you chop just about 4 to 5 feet of curb and you barely feel it inside the car so the suspension has got to swallow it.

I really was not happy with the Goodyears when I did the Christmas toy run event. Temps were in the mid to upper 30's with wet spots intermittent around the track and I could not get the tires hot enough to grip all day. They were very greasy.... I honestly would have done better on slicks. The Michelins are much better cold and rain tires in my opinion.

ZL1-V · 12-29-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

Well, if you show no signs of contact then it must be alright. Where I run the curbs are about 1 foot wide and probably 4 to 6" tall, on the really tight corners you chop just about 4 to 5 feet of curb and you barely feel it inside the car so the suspension has got to swallow it.

I really was not happy with the Goodyears when I did the Christmas toy run event. Temps were in the mid to upper 30's with wet spots intermittent around the track and I could not get the tires hot enough to grip all day. They were very greasy.... I honestly would have done better on slicks. The Michelins are much better cold and rain tires in my opinion.

Now you are talking, slicks.

CHMuscleCamaro · 12-30-2013, 02:49 AM

is that mrc suspension like a thread gunning gear for magentic ride? how much is this system?

jessrayo · 12-30-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMuscleCamaro

is that mrc suspension like a thread gunning gear for magentic ride? how much is this system?

I don't really understand this question. What is MRC and where did you hear about it?

mmarx82 · 12-30-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

I don't really understand this question. What is MRC and where did you hear about it?

MRC, Magnetic Ride Control is standard on the ZL1...

CHMuscleCamaro · 12-31-2013, 01:45 AM

ah sorry. then i misunderstood it.

because there was a post over a suspension system for the magnet ride that is like a thread suspension and i mean that.

crangie · 12-31-2013, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMuscleCamaro

ah sorry. then i misunderstood it.

because there was a post over a suspension system for the magnet ride that is like a thread suspension and i mean that.

You are asking for the magnetic ride coil overs (Gewindefahrwerk). Pfadt did some prototypes on those. Apparently its not economical to produce them in mass production, so they won't be available commercially.

DESERTDOG · 12-31-2013, 09:12 PM

My ZL1 came from the Pfadt Race Engr. shop in UT. Came with their Pfadt coil-over lowering shocks/springs in front, same in the rear...so the ride height can be adjusted easy...and MRC works as it should. Also have their larger than stock front and rear sway bars, with the end adjustments, so you can stiffen up the bars, or leave them close to stock setting. I would suggest their system, they have spend considrable time in developmrnt, testing it on the Miller Motorsports track...not to mention the high lift cam, Pfadt headers they also installed...697 hp to the rear tires !!

mmarx82 · 12-31-2013, 09:48 PM

I ended up getting the Stage 3 Pfadt performance package from Matt@510, I already have thier Tri-Y Headers on the way from JRE and the NoWeeds Exhaust Diverter coming as well. I've spent most of my day today getting and reading through all the installation manuals and comprising a list of tools I'd need. We have a place near me that you can use a lift for $5 hr that i'll be taking the car to for me to do the work.

After reading over the Solid Subframe Mounts Instructions I'm actually glad I'll be doing the exhaust portion at the same time since it has to come off to do that part. Fingers crossed for a good fast safe install not to mention a much better setup.

mmarx82 · 12-31-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CHMuscleCamaro

is that mrc suspension like a thread gunning gear for magentic ride? how much is this system?

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Originally Posted by jessrayo

I don't really understand this question. What is MRC and where did you hear about it?

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Originally Posted by crangie

You are asking for the magnetic ride coil overs (Gewindefahrwerk). Pfadt did some prototypes on those. Apparently its not economical to produce them in mass production, so they won't be available commercially.

I misunderstood both of you, thanks crangie for clearing it up. Yes MRC is Magnetic Ride control but I beleive that CHMuscleCamaro was refering to the PFADT MRC system. Here is a link to the thread I first saw them in: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272796

DESERTDOG · 01-02-2014, 09:22 PM

You will like the Pfadt system.

Matt@510 · 01-03-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mmarx82

I ended up getting the Stage 3 Pfadt performance package from Matt@510, I already have thier Tri-Y Headers on the way from JRE and the NoWeeds Exhaust Diverter coming as well. I've spent most of my day today getting and reading through all the installation manuals and comprising a list of tools I'd need. We have a place near me that you can use a lift for $5 hr that i'll be taking the car to for me to do the work.

After reading over the Solid Subframe Mounts Instructions I'm actually glad I'll be doing the exhaust portion at the same time since it has to come off to do that part. Fingers crossed for a good fast safe install not to mention a much better setup.

Thank you for your purchase. The instructions included are very well written and helpful ,plus if you were to ever hit a snag you can always look on here for any info of course. you can always give us a call.

$5 hr to rent a lift that is a deal.it was more than that to rent a lift on base at the hobby shop when i was in the navy. good luck with your installs.

DESERTDOG · 01-28-2014, 12:18 AM

The Pfadt coil over syst installed by Pfadt on my ZL1 is exactly like those on the pics from that original thread posted last January 2013. It works as it should, lighter than OEM, looks way kooler too!!
Being able to adjust each coil over individually to set up your ride height for whatever track you are going to be on is a big plus.
I don't know what those cost, but of your tracking yours, it would be a system I would look at.

12-31-2013, 09:12 PM	#22
DESERTDOG Drives: 2012 ZL1 M6 Summit White Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 97	My ZL1 came from the Pfadt Race Engr. shop in UT. Came with their Pfadt coil-over lowering shocks/springs in front, same in the rear...so the ride height can be adjusted easy...and MRC works as it should. Also have their larger than stock front and rear sway bars, with the end adjustments, so you can stiffen up the bars, or leave them close to stock setting. I would suggest their system, they have spend considrable time in developmrnt, testing it on the Miller Motorsports track...not to mention the high lift cam, Pfadt headers they also installed...697 hp to the rear tires !! Attached Images

12-31-2013, 09:48 PM	#23
mmarx82 Drives: '12 ZL1 #1609 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,762	I ended up getting the Stage 3 Pfadt performance package from Matt@510, I already have thier Tri-Y Headers on the way from JRE and the NoWeeds Exhaust Diverter coming as well. I've spent most of my day today getting and reading through all the installation manuals and comprising a list of tools I'd need. We have a place near me that you can use a lift for $5 hr that i'll be taking the car to for me to do the work. After reading over the Solid Subframe Mounts Instructions I'm actually glad I'll be doing the exhaust portion at the same time since it has to come off to do that part. Fingers crossed for a good fast safe install not to mention a much better setup. __________________ Life is too short to drive cars that suck. My build Thread

12-30-2013, 02:49 AM	#17
CHMuscleCamaro Drives: Camaro ZL1 Jg. 2012, M6, black Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Switzerland, Rheintal (SG) Posts: 78	is that mrc suspension like a thread gunning gear for magentic ride? how much is this system?

12-31-2013, 01:45 AM	#20
CHMuscleCamaro Drives: Camaro ZL1 Jg. 2012, M6, black Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Switzerland, Rheintal (SG) Posts: 78	ah sorry. then i misunderstood it. because there was a post over a suspension system for the magnet ride that is like a thread suspension and i mean that.

01-02-2014, 09:22 PM	#25
DESERTDOG Drives: 2012 ZL1 M6 Summit White Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 97	You will like the Pfadt system.

01-28-2014, 12:18 AM	#27
DESERTDOG Drives: 2012 ZL1 M6 Summit White Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 97	The Pfadt coil over syst installed by Pfadt on my ZL1 is exactly like those on the pics from that original thread posted last January 2013. It works as it should, lighter than OEM, looks way kooler too!! Being able to adjust each coil over individually to set up your ride height for whatever track you are going to be on is a big plus. I don't know what those cost, but of your tracking yours, it would be a system I would look at.