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fastfret7 · 10-19-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

That's what I was thinking too, but I didn't want to say I thought that because I wanted to see if anyone was drawing the same conclusion. There's two of you so far that thinks he was "saving" the allocation for his lot or showroom.

GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING!!!!
Just like what happened with the 05 mustangs. A local Ford dealer in my town told people they would sell them a mustang at MSRP and got their deposit. When the car was being built they change the price on them and offered back their desposit. They did this just because Ford was filling custom orders first and the dealership wanted a show room car to mark up. So, they got the person to order a Mustang and lied to them and jack up the price on them so they could have the car for them selfs. Oh, this dealer got busted by my local TV station for doing this. Souless

Nexus6 · 10-19-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I don't really blame salespeople for not knowing everything about this car or even GM policy. How much do any of us know about our companies, products, or services? It is hard to demand a car salesperson to know everything about this car and its allotment, features, or options.

This guys does not know what is happening when it comes to the Camaro. Many of us here at Camaro5 have an expertise in the Camaro. We don't have expertise in other cars. For example, I can tell you all about the Camaro, but don't think I'll be able to recite options or pricing for a Chevy Aveo. I know a little about the Aveo, but I couldn't tell you all of the features like I can with the Camaro. As a salesperson, this guy is responsible for a lot of cars and trucks. It is impossible to memorize every feature of every car on the lot.

Basically, just expect them to price it for you. You can learn the features and options here. Camaro5 is full of great buying advice, too. Don't expect your salesperson to guide you through the process. They're only there for a paycheck; you're there for your favorite new Chevy.

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Originally Posted by fastfret7

Yeah, but it's his job to know. If my job was just selling cars, I would know alot about my car line up. Plus, they work off commission. I guess I'm just really into cars.

That's exactly what i was going to say it is their JOB to know about these things.He is a terrible salesman and i would never do business with them.In fact i would go to another dealership and order one bring the "slip" of paper(which is actually a print out)show it to him,and then thank him for being Incompetint.That is one of the problems in this country today,too many people just half-assing around in a daze.If i half assed at my job no one would be able to connect to towers with their cellphones.

blakeequalshyphy · 10-19-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

When I was talking to him I couldn't help but shake the feeling that he was perfectly informed and was trying to misinform ME!

I'm going to try a different dealer on Monday.

I am a bit worried though because the guy was talking about huge markups being put on by other dealers. I was getting the feeling maybe he was going to say his markup was much smaller than others...

I had the EXACT same problem. Just got to find the right dealer

fastfret7 · 10-19-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexus6

That's exactly what i was going to say it is their JOB to know about these things.He is a terrible salesman and i would never do business with them.In fact i would go to another dealership and order one bring the "slip" of paper(which is actually a print out)show it to him,and then thank him for being Incompetint.That is one of the problems in this country today,too many people just half-assing around in a daze.If i half assed at my job no one would be able to connect to towers with their cellphones.

HaHA. If I slacked off at my job you people wouldn't get your "Deadliest Catch" nor "Dirty Jobs"! You and I could hinder the world...LOL

dvnt88 · 10-19-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamCamaro

Yup. He could be the nicest guy in the world but he's misinformed.

+1, if ur gonna sell it ya better know damn well all ya can about it. "_

Nexus6 · 10-19-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I don't really blame salespeople for not knowing everything about this car or even GM policy. How much do any of us know about our companies, products, or services? It is hard to demand a car salesperson to know everything about this car and its allotment, features, or options.

This guys does not know what is happening when it comes to the Camaro. Many of us here at Camaro5 have an expertise in the Camaro. We don't have expertise in other cars. For example, I can tell you all about the Camaro, but don't think I'll be able to recite options or pricing for a Chevy Aveo. I know a little about the Aveo, but I couldn't tell you all of the features like I can with the Camaro. As a salesperson, this guy is responsible for a lot of cars and trucks. It is impossible to memorize every feature of every car on the lot.

Basically, just expect them to price it for you. You can learn the features and options here. Camaro5 is full of great buying advice, too. Don't expect your salesperson to guide you through the process. They're only there for a paycheck; you're there for your favorite new Chevy.

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Originally Posted by fastfret7

HaHA. If I slacked off at my job you people wouldn't get your "Deadliest Catch" nor "Dirty Jobs"! You and I could hinder the world...LOL

Half-assers of the world UNITE !!

Captain Awesome · 10-19-2008, 05:46 PM

Looks like the old "Use allocation for dealer stock cars and arrange a bidding war with potential customers who see them on the lot" trick.

Shifty 6 · 10-20-2008, 08:16 AM

When I sold cars, I tried to know as much as I could about the other cars, sometimes I had to force myself to learn about Malibus and Cavaliers (at the time) but I did it.

I sell forklifts and service now...guess what I learned about forklifts and I even try to get to know about other dealers' service as well. Because when the customer asks about my response time for service..."we'll get there when we get there" just doesn't seem to impress him much.

Captain, My local dealer has 7 cars available only 2 spoken for. He said MSRP only (at least not over) if you want his number I can give it to you. In fact I told him I wasn't going to order until I saw the car, and colors, he asked what I wanted to see, and I think he is going to try to order one in the way I want or at least the color I want so I can see it, knowing I'm not buying the car when it gets here. Man what a jerk!

Glenn Buege Chevrolet · 10-20-2008, 09:04 AM

Sad all this misinformation is going around...it makes allot of dealers look for a lack of words STUPID...we are fortunate to have very knowledgeable sales women and men at our dealership!

Hylton · 10-20-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Buege Chevrolet

Sad all this misinformation is going around...it makes allot of dealers look for a lack of words STUPID...we are fortunate to have very knowledgeable sales women and men at our dealership!

Yes but do your knowledgeable sales people sell the 2010 Camaro at MSRP?

Captain Awesome · 10-20-2008, 08:52 PM

Here's a question:

If dealer allocation for 2011 is based on their 2010 Camaro sales and in 2010 they were only allocated 1 or 2 cars at a particular dealer, how on earth can they get the allocation higher?

Nexus6 · 10-20-2008, 09:20 PM

and one thing i forgot to mention,and this is a big one.

http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/

i mean. is he gonna argue with this? C'mon .how much of a tool is this guy .

Evotion · 10-20-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfret7

HaHA. If I slacked off at my job you people wouldn't get your "Deadliest Catch" nor "Dirty Jobs"! You and I could hinder the world...LOL

That is just downright frightening... I don't think I could survive. If you had added Mythbusters in there, I probably would have hung myself.

fastfret7 · 10-21-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Evotion

That is just downright frightening... I don't think I could survive. If you had added Mythbusters in there, I probably would have hung myself.

Well, I guess I could just press a few buttons....Do you really watch MythBusters? If you like that, check out "Storm Chasers". That's one of our newer shows. I think you might like it! It's on Sundays at 9 or 10

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10-19-2008, 05:46 PM	#35
Captain Awesome Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,746	Looks like the old "Use allocation for dealer stock cars and arrange a bidding war with potential customers who see them on the lot" trick.

10-20-2008, 08:16 AM	#36
Shifty 6 Drives: 2010 GTI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Morton, IL Posts: 679	When I sold cars, I tried to know as much as I could about the other cars, sometimes I had to force myself to learn about Malibus and Cavaliers (at the time) but I did it. I sell forklifts and service now...guess what I learned about forklifts and I even try to get to know about other dealers' service as well. Because when the customer asks about my response time for service..."we'll get there when we get there" just doesn't seem to impress him much. Captain, My local dealer has 7 cars available only 2 spoken for. He said MSRP only (at least not over) if you want his number I can give it to you. In fact I told him I wasn't going to order until I saw the car, and colors, he asked what I wanted to see, and I think he is going to try to order one in the way I want or at least the color I want so I can see it, knowing I'm not buying the car when it gets here. Man what a jerk!

10-20-2008, 09:04 AM	#37
Glenn Buege Chevrolet Drives: 1966 442 W-30 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Eaton Rapids, Michigan Posts: 2	Sad all this misinformation is going around...it makes allot of dealers look for a lack of words STUPID...we are fortunate to have very knowledgeable sales women and men at our dealership!

10-20-2008, 08:52 PM	#39
Captain Awesome Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,746	Here's a question: If dealer allocation for 2011 is based on their 2010 Camaro sales and in 2010 they were only allocated 1 or 2 cars at a particular dealer, how on earth can they get the allocation higher?

10-20-2008, 09:20 PM	#40
Nexus6 More human than human Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: The mouth of hell Posts: 1,887 View My Garage	and one thing i forgot to mention,and this is a big one. http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/ i mean. is he gonna argue with this? C'mon .how much of a tool is this guy .