Do you want the Z28?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Oh God, not this again.

Seriously...you either work for Magnuson (since almost all of your posts are about them), are trying to stir up more of "the world is ending" talk, or think you heard something making it into something it's not. You, yourself, even said you heard it, he alluded to it, someone else asked (but you asked), he said it (but he didn't because he shrugs his shoulders looking at you when he winked or nodded or ....something.......something like that. BUT, it was said differently in numerous posts which all had the same idea, but were inconsistent.

And speaking of typos....Dragon has a point. If you CARED about the name, brand, and mistake that was made in typing, you would have FIXED it..... seeing as though there's a LOT of CamAro enthusiats who truly CARE about how the brand name is spelled.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, Holden. But what's the point in rehashing all of this when you JUST went through it a couple of days ago???

That is how I meant to put it. LOL.

rmyers -

[Wm Holden]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Oh God, not this again.

Seriously...you either work for Magnuson (since almost all of your posts are about them), are trying to stir up more of "the world is ending" talk, or think you heard something making it into something it's not. You, yourself, even said you heard it, he alluded to it, someone else asked (but you asked), he said it (but he didn't because he shrugs his shoulders looking at you when he winked or nodded or ....something.......something like that. BUT, it was said differently in numerous posts which all had the same idea, but were inconsistent.

And speaking of typos....Dragon has a point. If you CARED about the name, brand, and mistake that was made in typing, you would have FIXED it..... seeing as though there's a LOT of CamAro enthusiats who truly CARE about how the brand name is spelled.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, Holden. But what's the point in rehashing all of this when you JUST went through it a couple of days ago???

Because this thread looks like 20 pages of mis-information up to this point.

I'm just trying to help you ALL get a handle on reality...

Be wishful if you want.

Gather facts in one hand and wish in the other. See which one produces a 600hp CamAro.

[rmyers]

So is there a thread from a reliable source that says there will be NO S/C Camaro? If so please post it in a new thread or pm me with that thread. I am tired of waning though 20 pages of bs to still be left in the dark. I'm not referring to hearsay, I am referring to actual documented interview from a reputable automotive publication?

[Shadowsong]

Personally, I think any/all threads talking about the Z28/ supercharged Camaro need to be locked and deleted.

I'm tired of all the "BRING ME THE Z" or "THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A Z!!?!?!" ETC.

The ONLY person I will believe ANYTHING about on the Z28, is the Fbodfather Himself.

He should be the ONLY person allowed to post ANYTHING about the Z, THEN we can talk about it.

Just my opinion.

[Mr. Wyndham]

and Fbodfather has said that the Z is NOT DEAD....so please stop asserting as truth otherwise.

[Shadowsong]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

and Fbodfather has said that the Z is NOT DEAD....so please stop asserting as truth otherwise.

When did I do that? I didn't mean to >.>

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

Repost from a different thread....but I believe pertinent.

There will be no production supercharged camero per ED WELBURN Vice President GM in charge of global development.

NO supercharged Camaro is going to make production. there are a few running around he admits....but no production plans.

He said no Z28.

prove it.

I want to see the whole quote, want to see where it came from, want to know when it was said and want to know the context of the conversation.

you talk a good game, but since you haven't been in on any of the product planning and development meetings for the Camaro, I dont believe a word you say about the Camaro or the status of the Z28 program... until you've got some HARD COPY PROOF, your best bet is to keep your mouth shut.

[dvnt88]

Originally Posted by warbird81

MY HEART JUST BROKE WTF WTF WHAT ABOUT THE SUPERCHARGER WHEN IS THAT COMMING. I NEED 500 + ALTHOUGH 400+ IS NOT BAD. MAYBE THEY WILL CALL IT THE ZL1. **** IM MAD NOW. I JUST HOPE THAT THEY WILL GIVE ME THE OPTION TO CHANGE THE FRONT END ON THE SS. NOT FEELIN THE BIGGER BOTTOM GRILL.

Agreed, but until everything goes into production. it's all just speculation. "(

[radz28]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

prove it.

I want to see the whole quote, want to see where it came from, want to know when it was said and want to know the context of the conversation.

you talk a good game, but since you haven't been in on any of the product planning and development meetings for the Camaro, I dont believe a word you say about the Camaro or the status of the Z28 program... until you've got some HARD COPY PROOF, your best bet is to keep your mouth shut.

WMHolden will only produce an alleged copy of an electronic letter he received. It will be a copied and pasted statement. Thus far, IMVHO, he has no unequivocal proof of what he is claiming. What's a little confusing to me is this meeting was with a bunch of GTO guys or something; I forget exactly.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Shadowsong

Personally, I think any/all threads talking about the Z28/ supercharged Camaro need to be locked and deleted.

I'm tired of all the "BRING ME THE Z" or "THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A Z!!?!?!" ETC.

The ONLY person I will believe ANYTHING about on the Z28, is the Fbodfather Himself.

He should be the ONLY person allowed to post ANYTHING about the Z, THEN we can talk about it.

Just my opinion.

I, honestly, don't see why there are so many with a view similar to yours. If you were to apply this view to Camaro, before it was even confirmed to be produced, this forum wouldn't be here. I'm all about discussion and friendly talk about enthusiasm and disappointment in this car, but I don't see why there is such a fuss about this particular subject. I can completely understand the frustration in sifting through anything constructive in posts that have no validation, however, we have been given validation by 'Father. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I think this forum is a great place to express it. Can't we all just get along?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Shadowsong

When did I do that? I didn't mean to >.>

Sorry:( ...not you. That was meant to be directed at Wm Holden; I forgot to quote....

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Sorry:( ...not you. That was meant to be directed at Wm Holden; I forgot to quote....

Speaking of quote, I'm going to jack for just a second - can someone point me in the direction of figuring out how to multi-quote from multiple posts in one response? I've looked but haven't figured it out yet. I'm sorry to

[Wm Holden]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

prove it.

I want to see the whole quote, want to see where it came from, want to know when it was said and want to know the context of the conversation.

you talk a good game, but since you haven't been in on any of the product planning and development meetings for the Camaro, I dont believe a word you say about the Camaro or the status of the Z28 program... until you've got some HARD COPY PROOF, your best bet is to keep your mouth shut.

Do you know who this guy is?


The information came from the indicated area.



He is



When? answer below...

Sent: Tue 7/08/08 4:57 PM
To: SeasideGoats@hotmail.com


Mr. Holden,

On Tuesday, July 15, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz will be visiting Southern California to meet with local business and design leaders. We'd love for you to be among a select group of car enthusiasts to sit down with Bob for a breakfast roundtable during his visit. We ask that you limit attendance to under 4 members per club. Details are as follows:

Meet-and-Greet Breakfast Roundtable with Bob Lutz, General Motors Vice Chairman, Global Product Development
Tuesday, July 15
8 - 9:30 a.m.
Art Center College of Design, Hillside Campus
Conference Room B
1700 Lida Street
Pasadena, CA 91103

Follow the main road through the campus until it ends in a large student parking lot. This lot is adjacent to the south entrance of the campus which gives you direct access to Conference Room B. There will be signs directing you to parking and to the conference room.

Please pass this around to other members of the Seaside Goats and RSVP to this event by this upcoming Thursday (July 10th). We ask that participation is limited to under 4 members per club. Hope to hear back!
-Nate Erickson
xxx-xxx-6014
nathaniel.erickson@xxx

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Later changed to Ed Welburn after Nate called me ....post rsvp.

See below for further clarification.

William,
Thanks for your time on the phone this afternoon. Here is the information of the event and some on Ed Welburn. Please get back to me as soon as possible (preferably by tomorrow morning) with short (no more than one paragraph) bios on those attending and your club, the Seaside GOATS. Call or email me if you have any questions.
--Nate Erickson
xxx-xxx-6014


Meet-and-Greet Breakfast Roundtable with Ed Welburn, General Motors Vice President, Global Design
Tuesday, July 15
8 - 9:30 a.m.
Art Center College of Design, Hillside Campus
Conference Room B
1700 Lida Street
Pasadena, CA 91103

Follow the main road through the campus until it ends in a large student parking lot. This lot is adjacent to the south entrance of the campus which gives you direct access to Conference Room B. There will be signs directing you to parking and to the conference room.



Ed Welburn was appoiting GM Vice PResident, global design on March 1st, 2005. He had been vice president of design, GM North America, since October 1 2003, when he became only the sixth design leader in GM history. As vice president of global design, Welburn is responsible f! or the d esign development of all General Motors cars and trucks. He heads a team of over 1,400 men and women operating in 11 design centers in eight countries around the world. Under his direction, GM has walked away from the North American International Auto Show with the coveted 2007 and 2008 "car of the year" awards and the 2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year for Cadillac CTS, the 2008 Eyes on Design Awards for both the CTS-V and CTS Coupe Concept and the 2008 Green Car of the Year for GM's Chevy Tahoe Hybrid.

[JEFF2010SSMANUAL]

Camaro SS is fine with me. I am sick of seeing old Z28's/IROC's all over. Bring on the "SS"