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Old 10-10-2012, 01:59 PM   #15
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Why?
Because he has IRS now, so every car with a SRA must be a danger to all of those on the road.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:05 PM   #16
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in those cars there is like absolutely nothing in them except the parts to make the car go and a driver seat. everything is light and fiber glass except maybe the frame. and they all are super sleek for less wind resistance. basically they are built to race only! where as these muscle cars, such as ZL1, are passenger cars that look sexy on the road and are meant to be street legal, but we are trying to make them go super fast. just lookup the weight differences between racers and muscles.

They're really not that super-much lighter (about 600 lbs), they carry about the same amount of gas and yet they're way faster and can sustain top speed for hours. Got this off a NASCAR site:
  • Weight: 3,400 pounds
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  • Top Speed: Rusty Wallace ran 228 in a test at Talladega in 2004 and believes 235 was possible.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:29 PM   #17
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GT500 apparently hit 202 MPH @ Nardo.

Motortrend his 196 MPH.

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/0...d-to-the-test/

That's far from low 190's. For a car that weighs as much as it does, and as much of a brick as it is, even 196 MPH is impressive.

I'll take my SRA over an IRS any day. All of my SRA cars have ZERO issue in triple digit speeds.

I thought the Lingenfelter ZL1 only made around 650 RWHP, not 720 RWHP?
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #18
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The NARDO was simply a Ford SVT gimmick that came out after everyone else tested the production car. Yes MT hit 196 and that was due to environmental variances (just as Probst stated). No reputable tester was able to do any better. What does that tell you?

Look carefully at the NARDO vid and you see the car has what appears to be a rollbar inside it. There is a brace by the a-pillar that is not in the production car. Very interesting!
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:01 PM   #19
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It didn't even crack 190 here:

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Old 10-10-2012, 04:08 PM   #20
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GT500 apparently hit 202 MPH @ Nardo.

Motortrend his 196 MPH.

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/0...d-to-the-test/

That's far from low 190's. For a car that weighs as much as it does, and as much of a brick as it is, even 196 MPH is impressive.

I'll take my SRA over an IRS any day. All of my SRA cars have ZERO issue in triple digit speeds.

I thought the Lingenfelter ZL1 only made around 650 RWHP, not 720 RWHP?
Yes, 196 is so far from 193. So far. Well spoken from a mustang head. Bravo! Lol
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:10 PM   #21
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More ways to put a another car down that isn't a Camaro.

Curious, has a Stock ZL1 hit 196 MPH?

Motortrend also tested in VERY HOT temps, and in high DA environment. They made it clear that it would hit 200 if it ran in not only cooler weather, but also with at a lower elevation compared to what they ran in.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:12 PM   #22
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Yes, 196 is so far from 193. So far. Well spoken from a mustang head. Bravo! Lol
Man, that was a good one.

3 MPH is a BIG difference in speeds that high. It takes seconds and seconds to go up 1 MPH. Have you ever been in high triple digit speeds? I doubt it based on your attitude. I've gone over 190 in a Lambo. Granted, it was a TT Murcielago, but, point being, a car is 600 RWHP car is not going to accelerate from 193 to 196 in 1 second. Not an easy task whatsoever.
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Just wanted to add that Ford didn't post anything official about the NARDO test either, nor did the driver actually say it broke 200 during the post interview. They didn't even post gps results.

FWIW..........I'm still looking for the article that I read that stated the production car was incapable of making power past the 190mph mark. The article specifically stated the telemetry was showing the car at 0.0 gravity/force at 190mph. Which they said meant the car wasn't making anymore power past that. Basically no more push!
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Well, I would agree that it takes a lot of power, or a very light car to go past 190+ in a car such as a GT500.

A vette will get there due it to it's light-weight and aerodynamics. It will take a lot of power for a car that weighs over 4,000lbs with a driver that has the front end of a refrigerator to break 200 MPH. Why do you think most cars that break 200 MPH in the Texas Mile are Lightweight, very Aerodynamic cars that don't require 800-900 HP?
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Never been in a Lambo (although the Diablo is my favorite) but I've been to 180 on my superbike............LOL!............and 152 in my old Charger!
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Never been in a Lambo (although the Diablo is my favorite) but I've been to 180 on my superbike............LOL!............and 152 in my old Charger!
You'll never see me on a bike, haha. Let alone doing 180. Props to you man
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http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/0...he-nardo-ring/

Here is what I found on the Nardo vid. They added a Roll-bar. Same as what GM did with the ZL1 when getting the Nurburgring time they did. A lot of people have and will continue to argue that roll-bars and braces have zero affect. They have a lot of affect in both handling and high speed runs. It stiffens the car and is also an added safety feature for the driver/passenger of the car in case of a crash.
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Well, I would agree that it takes a lot of power, or a very light car to go past 190+ in a car such as a GT500.

A vette will get there due it to it's light-weight and aerodynamics. It will take a lot of power for a car that weighs over 4,000lbs with a driver that has the front end of a refrigerator to break 200 MPH. Why do you think most cars that break 200 MPH in the Texas Mile are Lightweight, very Aerodynamic cars that don't require 800-900 HP?

..........very true! The base model Vette actually does 190mph with only 430hp. Design is the key and it does take mondo power to move a refrigerator................
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