When will it be "safe" to get a new Camaro

greg72982 · 03-13-2016, 05:09 AM

I've been reading some of these threads about the issues people are having with these cars (and there seems to be ALOT). I originally planned to wait for the 2017's to come out because I didn't like the idea of buying a first year model of a car and this forum seems to support that. The problem is my patience isn't holding up as well as I had hoped. That's more or less where my question in the thread title comes in. Do you guys think in a few months some of these issues will be corrected or will I have to wait until at least the 2017 models come out, if even then?

pete1077 · 03-13-2016, 05:15 AM

I look at it like playing the lottery. A lottery you don't want to win. The cars have been in production since October and I really don't think there are that many problems. Of course I feel bad for everyone who is experiencing problems and hope GM takes care of them. The vast majority of cars don't have any issues. You only hear the complaints from people who have problems.
I ordered my 2SS last months since I wanted my car in the spring time when I would actually be able to enjoy it. It's now the tail end of the model year and I would hope they fixed any bugs by now. Waiting for 2017 models means missing out on half the year of driving. There is also a chance of price increases for 2017 however also a possibility you could get a better deal on a 2016.

Marty McFlew · 03-13-2016, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pete1077

I look at it like playing the lottery. A lottery you don't want to win. The cars have been in production since October and I really don't think there are that many problems. Of course I feel bad for everyone who is experiencing problems and hope GM takes care of them. The vast majority of cars don't have any issues. You only hear the complaints from people who have problems.
I ordered my 2SS last months since I wanted my car in the spring time when I would actually be able to enjoy it. It's now the tail end of the model year and I would hope they fixed any bugs by now. Waiting for 2017 models means missing out on half the year of driving. There is also a chance of price increases for 2017 however also a possibility you could get a better deal on a 2016.

I'm not sure if its a small number with issues or not. I do know I have looked at several camaros at several dealers and have seen issues already just looking at them on the lot. These are just some issues....deep scuff mark swirls in the paint on the quarter panel on one. A broken seat motor on passenger seat on another, a heavy miss while sitting idling in one, never seen one yet where any of the seats reclined fully but one I sat in the passenger seat recline maybe 2in more than the drivers seat.

greg72982 · 03-13-2016, 05:42 AM

Has there been any indication on when they'll announce what's new for 2017?

TheHorse13 · 03-13-2016, 08:34 AM

I was in your position when the Gen5 Camaro came along. I waited until 2011 and ended up with the worst car I have ever owned. In addition, I learned a hard lesson on how you will be treated by GM after you hand over your money.

As someone else pointed out, you're playing the lemon lottery. Feel lucky?

parish8 · 03-13-2016, 09:05 AM

I drove 2 ss cars and they both had what felt like an intermittent miss at idle.

MikeyCamaro · 03-13-2016, 10:01 AM

I went to my dealer a couple months ago. Didn't get to drive one (dealer didn't want miles on them) but there were two 2SS's on the lot. Checked them out and started them up. Didn't notice any idle problems or QC problems at the time but didn't really know what to look for either. Honestly, if there had been one more inch of legroom and one more inch of headroom in the back seat, I might be driving one now, figuring the kids could live with it. Glad I didn't jump though given the QC issues I've heard here. Still would like to get one in about 3 years when my oldest is off to college. I feel like all the kinks will be worked out by then. Of course, by then, Dodge may have a redesigned Challenger too... so GM may have lost their opportunity with me. Who knows.

Mike

Glen e · 03-13-2016, 10:03 AM

The LT1 one idles rough. They always have. I'll bet many are confusing this with an "idle miss"…

Danew_377 · 03-13-2016, 10:18 AM

The car has very few downfalls that are specifically by way of defect. I think they have done quite a good job in producing this car. There is always going to be some speculation on when it's safe to buy a car, but this generation has done well so far.

TheHorse13 · 03-13-2016, 10:20 AM

The solid lifter LT1 in my old 1970 Corvette never idled rough. The valve train was noisy though. It reminds me of the modern Hemi motors that sound like a sewing machine.

In 2016, there shouldn't be a rough idle on a computer controlled motor if the motor is running right.

Glen e · 03-13-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHorse13

In 2016, there shouldn't be a rough idle on a computer controlled motor if the motor is running right.

Well owners perceive they do....its been that way on the corvette forums for the last two years.

Marty McFlew · 03-13-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

The LT1 one idles rough. They always have. I'll bet many are confusing this with an "idle miss"…

Nope...I'm familiar with the LT1, this was a miss not a rough idle. And this was an issue in just one car at idle not all.

MiamiBlueCamaro · 03-13-2016, 11:10 AM

Buy your Camaro and be happy! Now good luck with corporate greed.

Marty McFlew · 03-13-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyCamaro

I went to my dealer a couple months ago. Didn't get to drive one (dealer didn't want miles on them) but there were two 2SS's on the lot. Checked them out and started them up. Didn't notice any idle problems or QC problems at the time but didn't really know what to look for either. Honestly, if there had been one more inch of legroom and one more inch of headroom in the back seat, I might be driving one now, figuring the kids could live with it. Glad I didn't jump though given the QC issues I've heard here. Still would like to get one in about 3 years when my oldest is off to college. I feel like all the kinks will be worked out by then. Of course, by then, Dodge may have a redesigned Challenger too... so GM may have lost their opportunity with me. Who knows.

Mike

If were coming to this site and not seeing all the issues, I pretty sure I would be either driving a 2016 now or at least placed an order by now. And some of the negative dealer feedback just turns me off more.

03-13-2016, 05:09 AM	#1
greg72982 Drives: Black 2017 2SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: PA Posts: 539	When will it be "safe" to get a new Camaro I've been reading some of these threads about the issues people are having with these cars (and there seems to be ALOT). I originally planned to wait for the 2017's to come out because I didn't like the idea of buying a first year model of a car and this forum seems to support that. The problem is my patience isn't holding up as well as I had hoped. That's more or less where my question in the thread title comes in. Do you guys think in a few months some of these issues will be corrected or will I have to wait until at least the 2017 models come out, if even then?

03-13-2016, 05:15 AM	#2
pete1077 Drives: 2016 Mosaic Black 2SS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 116	I look at it like playing the lottery. A lottery you don't want to win. The cars have been in production since October and I really don't think there are that many problems. Of course I feel bad for everyone who is experiencing problems and hope GM takes care of them. The vast majority of cars don't have any issues. You only hear the complaints from people who have problems. I ordered my 2SS last months since I wanted my car in the spring time when I would actually be able to enjoy it. It's now the tail end of the model year and I would hope they fixed any bugs by now. Waiting for 2017 models means missing out on half the year of driving. There is also a chance of price increases for 2017 however also a possibility you could get a better deal on a 2016. __________________ Current 2016 Mosaic black 2SS. Previous 1994 and 2000 Z28 sold.

03-13-2016, 10:03 AM	#8
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,048	The LT1 one idles rough. They always have. I'll bet many are confusing this with an "idle miss"… __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

03-13-2016, 05:42 AM	#4
greg72982 Drives: Black 2017 2SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: PA Posts: 539	Has there been any indication on when they'll announce what's new for 2017?

03-13-2016, 08:34 AM	#5
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1,116	I was in your position when the Gen5 Camaro came along. I waited until 2011 and ended up with the worst car I have ever owned. In addition, I learned a hard lesson on how you will be treated by GM after you hand over your money. As someone else pointed out, you're playing the lemon lottery. Feel lucky?

03-13-2016, 09:05 AM	#6
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	I drove 2 ss cars and they both had what felt like an intermittent miss at idle.

03-13-2016, 10:01 AM	#7
MikeyCamaro Drives: 2015 Challenger SRT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: West Florida Posts: 147	I went to my dealer a couple months ago. Didn't get to drive one (dealer didn't want miles on them) but there were two 2SS's on the lot. Checked them out and started them up. Didn't notice any idle problems or QC problems at the time but didn't really know what to look for either. Honestly, if there had been one more inch of legroom and one more inch of headroom in the back seat, I might be driving one now, figuring the kids could live with it. Glad I didn't jump though given the QC issues I've heard here. Still would like to get one in about 3 years when my oldest is off to college. I feel like all the kinks will be worked out by then. Of course, by then, Dodge may have a redesigned Challenger too... so GM may have lost their opportunity with me. Who knows. Mike

03-13-2016, 10:18 AM	#9
Danew_377 Chief Bief Drives: Nightfall Gray Camaro 1SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Norfolk, Virginia Posts: 208	The car has very few downfalls that are specifically by way of defect. I think they have done quite a good job in producing this car. There is always going to be some speculation on when it's safe to buy a car, but this generation has done well so far.

03-13-2016, 10:20 AM	#10
TheHorse13 Drives: 2011 Black SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1,116	The solid lifter LT1 in my old 1970 Corvette never idled rough. The valve train was noisy though. It reminds me of the modern Hemi motors that sound like a sewing machine. In 2016, there shouldn't be a rough idle on a computer controlled motor if the motor is running right.

03-13-2016, 11:10 AM	#13
MiamiBlueCamaro Drives: Gen 6 Camaro RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami FL Posts: 1,725	Buy your Camaro and be happy! Now good luck with corporate greed.

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