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Old 07-27-2012, 10:40 AM   #561
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But to me it seems the system is flawed when the auto x is for anything and everything but the drag is centered around just the camaro? No bracket on friday either? And if you dont have a 5th gen camaro then your just left to the limited time of test and tunes? Dont mind mr im just venting but it just seems like everyone else could be in a bracket series thats not a camaro
Drag Racing is not the only thing centered around the Camaro. The entire event is. Quite sure AutoX is not giving out cash prizes and I'm also pretty sure they are not giving 1st, 2nd, 3rd awards to just any model car (I could be wrong). I guarantee folks would not be happy if a G8 walked away with prize money. In fact, a G8 taking up coveted time slots on a busy AutoX course may not be well received by some.

The whole purpose of having classes is to distinguish exactly what type of car is running,,, and in this case, since it's a 5th Gen event the make and model comes to play. We want to carry these times from year to year and have records to break.

The good news is (and I think you are underestimating this point) the test and tune part is the major portion of Drag Racing. It's going to be a lot easier to get a ton of cars down the strip than it will be in Auto X. The majority of the time you will just be able to line up and go. In fact last year they closed the track early because no one was running. We did get them to open it back up..
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:44 AM   #562
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Sorry but do to fad on turbo is not complete I will not be able to make the fest this year. May show up to watch but no fun without car.
Big time bummer man... but we understand. It's always tough to knock out the kinks before a race... really wanted to see this one run, but better to take your time and get it right.

Do show up... hanging out w/ everyone is the most fun anyway.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:16 PM   #563
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Drag Racing is not the only thing centered around the Camaro. The entire event is. Quite sure AutoX is not giving out cash prizes and I'm also pretty sure they are not giving 1st, 2nd, 3rd awards to just any model car (I could be wrong). I guarantee folks would not be happy if a G8 walked away with prize money. In fact, a G8 taking up coveted time slots on a busy AutoX course may not be well received by some.

The whole purpose of having classes is to distinguish exactly what type of car is running,,, and in this case, since it's a 5th Gen event the make and model comes to play. We want to carry these times from year to year and have records to break.

The good news is (and I think you are underestimating this point) the test and tune part is the major portion of Drag Racing. It's going to be a lot easier to get a ton of cars down the strip than it will be in Auto X. The majority of the time you will just be able to line up and go. In fact last year they closed the track early because no one was running. We did get them to open it back up..
And i completely understand that but what i dont understand is why you would single me out by saying that im taking up slots that a camaro could have and the prize money going tova G8? Thats a little ridiculous, i cant even believe you would say that. I guarantee that im not the only car there thats not a camaro competing. Why do the forms for auto x have make and model on them and why would dragsters be there if its camaros only?
Im not trying to be a troll here im just bringing up issues and details that i would like explained and i dont want to be suprised when i get there.
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And i completely understand that but what i dont understand is why you would single me out by saying that im taking up slots that a camaro could have and the prize money going tova G8? Thats a little ridiculous, i cant even believe you would say that. I guarantee that im not the only car there thats not a camaro competing. Why do the forms for auto x have make and model on them and why would dragsters be there if its camaros only?
Im not trying to be a troll here im just bringing up issues and details that i would like explained and i dont want to be suprised when i get there.
The dragsters will be in the exhibition class. You can run the G8 all day in the test and tune. You are just not allowed to enter into the classes. No different than any other event. This one happens to have 5th gen Camaros only. I don't think he was singling you out so please don't take it that way. He was just clarifying your question.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:40 PM   #565
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I understand the drags thats fine but he did single me out when it comes to the auto x part of it. The only class details on that is the vehicles mods, not the vehicle? Or am i wrong?
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But to me it seems the system is flawed when the auto x is for anything and everything but the drag is centered around just the camaro? No bracket on friday either? And if you dont have a 5th gen camaro then your just left to the limited time of test and tunes? Dont mind mr im just venting but it just seems like everyone else could be in a bracket series thats not a camaro
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And i completely understand that but what i dont understand is why you would single me out by saying that im taking up slots that a camaro could have and the prize money going tova G8? Thats a little ridiculous, i cant even believe you would say that. I guarantee that im not the only car there thats not a camaro competing. Why do the forms for auto x have make and model on them and why would dragsters be there if its camaros only?
Im not trying to be a troll here im just bringing up issues and details that i would like explained and i dont want to be suprised when i get there.
Sorry maybe I miss understood, when I heard you wanted to be part of bracket and classes I took it to mean actually competing. There is money involved with the drag classes so it would naturally come into play. My bad.

I have zero to do with Auto X so I can't make comparisons. The dragsters we speak of are Camaros. We have rules spelled out in the OP that are pretty straigh forward and eliminates non-street legal cars so they run as exhibitions which everyone really wants to see.

You may very likely be in the 1% of non-camaros racing. Of the last two fests combined I believe we had 2 challengers and a dragster at fest 1 and I can't remember any non-camaros at fest 2. I only brought that up so you aren't surprised.



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The dragsters will be in the exhibition class. You can run the G8 all day in the test and tune. You are just not allowed to enter into the classes. No different than any other event. This one happens to have 5th gen Camaros only. I don't think he was singling you out so please don't take it that way. He was just clarifying your question.
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I understand the drags thats fine but he did single me out when it comes to the auto x part of it. The only class details on that is the vehicles mods, not the vehicle? Or am i wrong?
The auto x I can't comment on. I just assumed that everything was 5th gen oriented. Drag racing, auto x, and the car show. Anything else was allowed to participate in the exhibition.
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The G8 is an interesting car at C5FEST.It is more Camaro than anything else in the market. I started talking about the 5th Gen with the 'four door Camaro' here on C5 a long time ago. My personal affection for the G8 has caused this confusion.

This is CAMARO5FEST. The consensus of the organizers is that awards go to Camaros, though bragging rights go to the fastest car. In the AC it is easy for us as we race against the track and time. 5THGENRS will be able to run his G8 in the appropriate equipment class. If he or she wins, it looks like I'll owe them a special plaque. The drags work differently and I understand completely why the G8 goes to Exhibition over here.

I hope this helps.
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The G8 is an interesting car at C5FEST.It is more Camaro than anything else in the market. I started talking about the 5th Gen with the 'four door Camaro' here on C5 a long time ago. My personal affection for the G8 has caused this confusion.
Thanks for the clarification, JusticePete.The G8 is build from the same platform as the camaro, the Zeta. Just has a different body. I was hoping i would be accepted if i wanted to run something different let alone having a car that is very similar, despite not looking like it.
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Yeah ive already asked and the fee is based on being there and not the car. I know its a camaro event and i have no problem with that, i have a 2010 camaro but my primary performance car is my g8 so i want to do the most with it, drag and autox. I just want a time with the camaro being that its a v6 and manual and ive never drag raced a manual yet so i can imagine there will be stalling in my future.
But to me it seems the system is flawed when the auto x is for anything and everything but the drag is centered around just the camaro? No bracket on friday either? And if you dont have a 5th gen camaro then your just left to the limited time of test and tunes? Dont mind mr im just venting but it just seems like everyone else could be in a bracket series thats not a camaro
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And i completely understand that but what i dont understand is why you would single me out by saying that im taking up slots that a camaro could have and the prize money going tova G8? Thats a little ridiculous, i cant even believe you would say that. I guarantee that im not the only car there thats not a camaro competing. Why do the forms for auto x have make and model on them and why would dragsters be there if its camaros only?
Im not trying to be a troll here im just bringing up issues and details that i would like explained and i dont want to be suprised when i get there.
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I understand the drags thats fine but he did single me out when it comes to the auto x part of it. The only class details on that is the vehicles mods, not the vehicle? Or am i wrong?
In the end I think Pete is going to make this easy on all of us.

I apologize for being late to the conversation but please allow me to clarify.

Official awards are to be given to 5th Gen Camaros. This goes for AutoX, Drag Racing and Car Show.

The real reason we are not allowing other cars in the drag racing competitive rounds is so that they don't eliminate a 5th gen from the competition. Even if we agree that they can't get prize money, since our finals will be elimination rounds, they would be eliminating camaro's that could have a shot at prize money.

I think we all agree on that I just wanted to add that point.

As far as AutoX goes. You can run in the competition rounds if you qualify for them. However you would not be allowed to accept an official Camaro5 Fest award. Having said that, if Pete wants give an award for Fastest Non-Camaro we certainly won't have a problem with that.

We don't want to exclude anyone. We've had mustangs, challengers, trucks, at previous Fests.

But the official awards are reserved for those that own 5th Gen Camaros for what we consider to be obvious reasons.

Please don't get me wrong. We want you there and to feel welcome. And to ultimately have a blast. We only ask that you understand our desire to reward our members that make the fest possible.


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The G8 is an interesting car at C5FEST.It is more Camaro than anything else in the market. I started talking about the 5th Gen with the 'four door Camaro' here on C5 a long time ago. My personal affection for the G8 has caused this confusion.

This is CAMARO5FEST. The consensus of the organizers is that awards go to Camaros, though bragging rights go to the fastest car. In the AC it is easy for us as we race against the track and time. 5THGENRS will be able to run his G8 in the appropriate equipment class. If he or she wins, it looks like I'll owe them a special plaque. The drags work differently and I understand completely why the G8 goes to Exhibition over here.

I hope this helps.
Thanks for chiming in Pete.
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We are all going to have a blast and that's what it's all about. This stuff isn't really all that serious, but the bragging rights will be someday.
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............ the bragging rights will be someday.


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