Hellcat Times in line with Modded Camaros?

[Jims Mongoose]

My question is simple. With the Hellcat at 707 crank, I will assume about, 620 to 630 at the rear wheels. With the 8 speed automatic it ran 11.2 and 10.8 street tires and DR's.

Is that in line with modified automatic Camaros on this forum that have about the same rear wheel horsepower. I realize the charger probably has more weight, but lets see some comparisons from you guys in the know.

Please no charger bashing or silly stuff, just some honest comparos.

Thanks
Jim

[PoorMansCamaro]

just so you know, it's a challenger, not charger.

[Muscle Car Memories]

Originally Posted by Jims Mongoose

My question is simple. With the Hellcat at 707 crank, I will assume about, 620 to 630 at the rear wheels. With the 8 speed automatic it ran 11.2 and 10.8 street tires and DR's.

Is that in line with modified automatic Camaros on this forum that have about the same rear wheel horsepower. I realize the charger probably has more weight, but lets see some comparisons from you guys in the know.

Please no charger bashing or silly stuff, just some honest comparos.

Thanks
Jim

I hate to tell ya but I give this thread about 10 reply posts and it will go all to hell and they will be practically fist fighting....Its fun to watch though

[Jims Mongoose]

I hope this post does not go all to hell. I really think it could create some constructive ideas. The eight speed tranny may give the charger and advantage. Also it's interesting to see how an engineerd from the factory car compares to the wonderfully modded cars that we create. The factory has some warrantee guidelines to restrain them, but they have the full power and testing capabilities of the corporation.

We will see.

Jim

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Jims Mongoose

I hope this post does not go all to hell. I really think it could create some constructive ideas. The eight speed tranny may give the charger and advantage. Also it's interesting to see how an engineerd from the factory car compares to the wonderfully modded cars that we create. The factory has some warrantee guidelines to restrain them, but they have the full power and testing capabilities of the corporation.

We will see.

Jim

You did it again!!!

[DSX_Camaro]

When you compare vehicles with similar horsepower, the factors go to weight and gearing. Currently the Mustang is the fastest, being the lightest with good power (GT500 having the second most now), while the ZL1 lags behind due to higher weight and the Corvette's existence causing GM to skimp on it's power. The Hellcat may bring SOMETHING to the table, as it has 707 and the 8 speed auto, but it will probably weigh 4300ish pounds. Give the ZL1 or the GT500 700hp and they will easily compete/win. The Dodge guys are even saying the Hellcat will beat the Z06... they're insane.

My guess is the Hellcat will perform about GT500 range.

Of course, with the "red fob black fob" thing that Dodge is doing, how many people are actually going to use all 707hp compared to how many will use the 500hp setting...

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by DSX_Camaro

Of course, with the "red fob black fob" thing that Dodge is doing, how many people are actually going to use all 707hp compared to how many will use the 500hp setting...

I would guess the people that buy the hellcat will use it as a garage queen/weekend warrior type vehicle. in that case, they would use the 707hp key every time, I would think. at least I would. If someone were to buy it as a daily driver, I could see them using the 500hp key more often than not. either way, that idea is pretty bad ass.

[Denis]

everyone talks about how it can run 10.8 on drag radials. heres a question, how many of you have been to the track and seen a ZL1 or GT500 run high 12's because the dude cant drive? i know i have. Just because it CAN run that doesnt mean your average joe will actually be able to run that time. these will be mid/high 11 second cars on street street tires and low 11 sec cars on DR's.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Denis

everyone talks about how it can run 10.8 on drag radials. heres a question, how many of you have been to the track and seen a ZL1 or GT500 run high 12's because the dude cant drive? i know i have. Just because it CAN run that doesnt mean your average joe will actually be able to run that time. these will be mid/high 11 second cars on street street tires and low 11 sec cars on DR's.

Either way it's still about a full second ahead of a ZL1 stock for stock

[Jims Mongoose]

What I really want to see is what our Camaro's run at the track with drag radials, automatic and about 600 to 640 real wheel horsepower. I'm sure there are plenty on this forum.

Thanks in advance.

Jim

[PoorMansCamaro]

you can check out the drag times section. see how fast they are running, and what mods they have.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

you can check out the drag times section. see how fast they are running, and what mods they have.

^^^What he said... we have a whole section for that.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013

[Jims Mongoose]

Originally Posted by mlee

^^^What he said... we have a whole section for that.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013

Thanks

Jim

[motorhead]

Since we're talking about modded cars here, what do you think the CHALLENGER will run with simple mods, or will it not be mod friendly without spending a lot of cash beefing things up?