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Scrappy Doo · 12-14-2009, 05:31 PM

I just looked it up. Its a 2lt rjt rs, but its an auto. sorry warmart.

PS: MSRP is 30,835, they are asking 29,600.

MikesZ · 12-14-2009, 05:35 PM

I will order from one of the dealers on this site. AZ dealers are pathetic crooks.

Warmart · 12-14-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

I just looked it up. Its a 2lt rjt rs, but its an auto. sorry warmart.

Well I appreciate you looking. Still pretty far from AZ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikesZ

I will order from one of the dealers on this site. AZ dealers are pathetic crooks.

Yah pretty apparent now. Since these dealers stay in business my only guess is that there are some seriously uneducated car buyers in AZ.

Have had good (phone only) dealings with Power @ Superstition Springs (never have any stock), and Courtesy (have some coming in but probably not exactly what I want). Seems the guy at Courtesy is at least putting in effort. Hit or miss with Sands, guy doesn't return calls that well. Brown & Brown in Mesa seems ok, low key, but no stock (very small dealer I guess). Henry Brown in Casa Grande just gave me a fair email quote for my car, but they only have SS's in stock. O'Rielly in Tucson has *almost* what I want coming in soon, but it's an Auto. Could I live with that AND pay another $1000 ish? Doubtful even though I drive in crappy traffic, I miss my last two stick cars. Everyone that I haven't listed is out of the running, permanently.

Warmart · 12-19-2009, 12:22 AM

Well it seems the AZ Attorney Generals office contacted Chapman Chevy in the last couple days.

The General Mgr called me today, seemed rather embarrassed and willing to correct the problem. But the only 6-cyl they have is a 2LT Black Auto (no RS), the original car was a 2LT CGM Stick with RS. They said they would give me GMS pricing (I do qualify and have an auth #). Had a good face to face meeting with the Internet Sales Mgr today. Kind of helped wash away some of the original bs. At least they've tried to make up for the original issue.

Also got an email from Brown & Brown in Mesa earlier today, as they had a buyer back out of a 2LT - so it was available

It's a Black with IO interior and AUTO. OMG the IO interior is pretty damn sweet. First time I was able to see it in person. They also would do GMS and USAA. It's more expensive then either the original car OR the one Chapman has now. I had nothing but good vibes from Brown & Brown, they've been around since the 1920's. Guess that's a good thing. Salesman was really low pressure, younger, nice guy.

I told them both I needed to think it over, overnight. Getting out of my current car is proving painful (monthly payment wise). But the numbers actually come out better on the Black with IO. Better financing in Mesa w/Brown & Brown seem to make it the best deal. Really wanted the RJT w/Stick but Midway (only place with one) won't return my calls, low balled me BIG TIME on my trade, won't do GMS, and have a $7000ish markup just for good measure.

Guess I have to go back on wanting only an RJT 2LT RS Manual, 'eh?

Think I'm pulling the trigger on the black w/IO

in the AM!!! Downtown Mesa here I come. Unless I get scared before then hehehe.

az5thgen · 12-19-2009, 04:57 AM

Warmart - Take a look at Thorobred Chevrolet in Chandler before you lock in.
Mike Jimenez is their Camaro Guru and they are a great private dealer - Not a big chain like Brown and Brown. We have bought 6 cars from them now, never a nickle over MSRP (Usually less) and NO BS!

Good luck with your deal - come join our Social Group on here - search the Community tab here for Arizona All Gens!

Nick

Just checked Thorobreds website - several in stock, from LS to SS - several color choices and trim choices.

Scrappy Doo · 12-19-2009, 06:30 AM

Warmart, Just don't settle man. If you really want the stick then wait to get one. Or i know you can find one if you search around. Just don't want to see a rjt and wonder should I have waited..... Can the new place order you one in?

However, the black with iom is a great combo and it would be a geat car.

2010SLVRBULIT · 12-19-2009, 06:56 AM

..sounds like some of dealers will give you alot for your trade in, only to screw you over w/ the market adjustment ploy as an offset..

Warmart · 12-19-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az5thgen

Warmart - Take a look at Thorobred Chevrolet in Chandler before you lock in.

Good luck with your deal - come join our Social Group on here - search the Community tab here for Arizona All Gens!

I had communications with a Richard (hehe imagine the connotations of the common abbreviation of that) there, and he wouldn't answer all of my questions so I never went in person. Do know they wouldn't do GMS. I will check out the local sub forum, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

Warmart, Just don't settle man. If you really want the stick then wait to get one.

Hehe, I know. But I do commute in rather nasty traffic. So I would probably curse myself everyday going to work.

Warmart · 12-20-2009, 05:26 PM

Probably my final post in this thread.

Came close to actually buying a 2LT non-RS from Chapman as they ended up being pretty nice in the end. But the original car I wanted had the RS, and so the one I ended up getting (from Brown & Brown in Mesa) has it.

So, if the mods feel like changing the thread subject (or can I do that?), I think it would be warranted. Chapman offered a good deal in the end, not on the exact car, but they at least tried. So I give them credit for that.

SS FOR CRUZN · 01-09-2010, 08:35 PM

Funny how the dealers work in Az, had very good luck when I got my 2000 1500 Siverado from Brown & Brown in mesa, they were turds when we were loking for the 2010 Camaro.
My 2006 SS Silverado was bought via Fleet Sales at Chapman, no b.s., however got super jerked around by Power Chevy (Superstition) !!
2010 Camaro was located thru Sands in Glendale, was a good experience, NASCAR's Michael McDowels family members work there, pretty cool group, again in fleet sales.
When my pops got his 09 Vette Freeway Chevy Internet sales blew the rest ofthe dealers away with no b.s. on the Vette.
I guess its hit or miss in AZ.

brtaus · 01-17-2010, 10:03 PM

Warmart, sorry to hear about your bad luck at Chapman. I bought my Camaro there with no issues. In fact, it was the fourth car I bought from them with no issues. The dealership I had the most trouble with was Midway but that's another story for another day.

Eski7399 · 01-18-2010, 08:05 PM

Got mine from Courtesy and they were great.

Got mine 1250 below MSRP. USAA discount (750) and denied the 60 day return for another 500.

2SS/RS, Inferno int, sunroof, rally stripes for just a tad over 36K.

ajp · 01-18-2010, 08:07 PM

Ordered mine from Superstition Springs at GM Supplier in July. Very good experience.

12-14-2009, 05:35 PM	#30
MikesZ Group Provocateur Drives: Long Distances Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,022	I will order from one of the dealers on this site. AZ dealers are pathetic crooks. __________________

12-19-2009, 12:22 AM	#32
Warmart Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Auto - Black & IO Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: AZ - Maricopa Posts: 40	Well it seems the AZ Attorney Generals office contacted Chapman Chevy in the last couple days. The General Mgr called me today, seemed rather embarrassed and willing to correct the problem. But the only 6-cyl they have is a 2LT Black Auto (no RS), the original car was a 2LT CGM Stick with RS. They said they would give me GMS pricing (I do qualify and have an auth #). Had a good face to face meeting with the Internet Sales Mgr today. Kind of helped wash away some of the original bs. At least they've tried to make up for the original issue. Also got an email from Brown & Brown in Mesa earlier today, as they had a buyer back out of a 2LT - so it was available It's a Black with IO interior and AUTO. OMG the IO interior is pretty damn sweet. First time I was able to see it in person. They also would do GMS and USAA. It's more expensive then either the original car OR the one Chapman has now. I had nothing but good vibes from Brown & Brown, they've been around since the 1920's. Guess that's a good thing. Salesman was really low pressure, younger, nice guy. I told them both I needed to think it over, overnight. Getting out of my current car is proving painful (monthly payment wise). But the numbers actually come out better on the Black with IO. Better financing in Mesa w/Brown & Brown seem to make it the best deal. Really wanted the RJT w/Stick but Midway (only place with one) won't return my calls, low balled me BIG TIME on my trade, won't do GMS, and have a $7000ish markup just for good measure. Guess I have to go back on wanting only an RJT 2LT RS Manual, 'eh? Think I'm pulling the trigger on the black w/IO in the AM!!! Downtown Mesa here I come. Unless I get scared before then hehehe. Last edited by Warmart; 12-19-2009 at 12:57 AM.

12-20-2009, 05:26 PM	#37
Warmart Drives: 2010 2LT/RS Auto - Black & IO Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: AZ - Maricopa Posts: 40	Chapman Chevrolet - Tempe, AZ Probably my final post in this thread. Came close to actually buying a 2LT non-RS from Chapman as they ended up being pretty nice in the end. But the original car I wanted had the RS, and so the one I ended up getting (from Brown & Brown in Mesa) has it. So, if the mods feel like changing the thread subject (or can I do that?), I think it would be warranted. Chapman offered a good deal in the end, not on the exact car, but they at least tried. So I give them credit for that. Last edited by Warmart; 12-20-2009 at 05:27 PM. Reason: Title change

01-18-2010, 08:07 PM	#41
ajp 50th Anniversary Vert Drives: Camaro 2017 50th Anniversary Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 2,315 View My Garage	Ordered mine from Superstition Springs at GM Supplier in July. Very good experience. __________________

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12-14-2009, 05:31 PM	#29
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,738	I just looked it up. Its a 2lt rjt rs, but its an auto. sorry warmart. PS: MSRP is 30,835, they are asking 29,600.

12-19-2009, 04:57 AM	#33
az5thgen Drives: 2010 1LT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mesa Arizona Posts: 334 View My Garage	Warmart - Take a look at Thorobred Chevrolet in Chandler before you lock in. Mike Jimenez is their Camaro Guru and they are a great private dealer - Not a big chain like Brown and Brown. We have bought 6 cars from them now, never a nickle over MSRP (Usually less) and NO BS! Good luck with your deal - come join our Social Group on here - search the Community tab here for Arizona All Gens! Nick Just checked Thorobreds website - several in stock, from LS to SS - several color choices and trim choices.

12-19-2009, 06:30 AM	#34
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,738	Warmart, Just don't settle man. If you really want the stick then wait to get one. Or i know you can find one if you search around. Just don't want to see a rjt and wonder should I have waited..... Can the new place order you one in? However, the black with iom is a great combo and it would be a geat car.

12-19-2009, 06:56 AM	#35
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	..sounds like some of dealers will give you alot for your trade in, only to screw you over w/ the market adjustment ploy as an offset..

01-09-2010, 08:35 PM	#38
SS FOR CRUZN SS CAR, SS TRUCK !! Drives: 2010 2SS IMPERIAL BLUE METALIC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: ARIZONA Posts: 89	Funny how the dealers work in Az, had very good luck when I got my 2000 1500 Siverado from Brown & Brown in mesa, they were turds when we were loking for the 2010 Camaro. My 2006 SS Silverado was bought via Fleet Sales at Chapman, no b.s., however got super jerked around by Power Chevy (Superstition) !! 2010 Camaro was located thru Sands in Glendale, was a good experience, NASCAR's Michael McDowels family members work there, pretty cool group, again in fleet sales. When my pops got his 09 Vette Freeway Chevy Internet sales blew the rest ofthe dealers away with no b.s. on the Vette. I guess its hit or miss in AZ.

01-17-2010, 10:03 PM	#39
brtaus Drives: None Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 574 View My Garage	Warmart, sorry to hear about your bad luck at Chapman. I bought my Camaro there with no issues. In fact, it was the fourth car I bought from them with no issues. The dealership I had the most trouble with was Midway but that's another story for another day.

01-18-2010, 08:05 PM	#40
Eski7399 Arizona All Gens Drives: 2SS/RS, M6, IO-Int Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surprise, Arizona Posts: 273 View My Garage	Got mine from Courtesy and they were great. Got mine 1250 below MSRP. USAA discount (750) and denied the 60 day return for another 500. 2SS/RS, Inferno int, sunroof, rally stripes for just a tad over 36K.