SC2150 Account suspended...

[montreal2010yellow]

Originally Posted by PQ

Honestly, a catch can is a catch can. You can get along just fine without even having one. They ALL work, so just pick a pretty one and get it if you want it. If one works better than another, so what? It isn't gonna be a big enough difference to matter in the long run. These engines have gone into the 250k miles just fine WITHOUT one. (The LS3 platform of course)

I know this is not the right thread but I installed 2 cans on my V6.
The one close to the fender is connected to the clean side PCV and the other one on the dirty side (one on top of the engine)

After 700 miles I opened the cans. The clean side had oil fumes into the stuffing I added to the Megan type can which is an empty type can. But for the dirty side there was about 1 height inch of oil accumulation after only 700 miles. Imagine, my car has 16,000 miles now.

I always thought that clean is always better than dirty...







As for this thread I hope that SC2150 will be back since hI learned a lot on catch cans because of him.

[Padre]

Originally Posted by oville-rider

Well I just got my catch can today but no throttle body. tried to send him a PM.... Account suspended! So does this mean I'm getting no throttle body? Are they out of business or just off line till they get things straighten out? any info out there?

Originally Posted by SC2150

RXProducts@aol.com

Shoot him an e-mail.

Padre

[PQ]

Originally Posted by terry_b

And I hope this thread doesn't disappear... it would only validate my point

No, it really wouldn't. The title of this thread suggests conversation with the subject being a members status after being suspended. And a vendor at that. And that's just not cool. I've seen the misinformation that comes after a 'Respected' member gets suspended or banned. People don't know the whole story and so just assumed that because the member or vendor was nice to them that the mods just decided to pick on someone, who was sitting there minding their own business, for no reason. How much sense does that make?

I don't know Tracy. Never spoke with, or even seen any posts by him/her. But I do know others who are not the people that the community thinks they are. Even some who are still active.

Originally Posted by montreal2010yellow

I know this is not the right thread but I installed 2 cans on my V6.
The one close to the fender is connected to the clean side PCV and the other one on the dirty side (one on top of the engine)

After 700 miles I opened the cans. The clean side had oil fumes into the stuffing I added to the Megan type can which is an empty type can. But for the dirty side there was about 1 height inch of oil accumulation after only 700 miles. Imagine, my car has 16,000 miles now.

I always thought that clean is always better than dirty...


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As for this thread I hope that SC2150 will be back since hI learned a lot on catch cans because of him.

Clean is not always better than dirty. But in this case it may be. I've had it said to me that the oil inside the right blower can act as lubricant. (far fetched) But the oil gets burned out. If the carbon builds up over 150k miles, then seafoam it.

It's not like all of that oil builds up and gets stuffed in the engine at one time. It burns off. Now I'm all for the best fix. fix it and be done with it. Though I still haven't put one on my car, I have plenty of time. And will do so. A catch can is a really cool idea for these engines. But as a preventitive measure. You could put 250k miles on your engine and NEVER have a problem from not having a catch can. These engines are designed that way. It's a good call to put one on if you think you'll have the car and never have to open the engine up for anything. Throw a blower on there or do a cam and power it up more and you could benefit even more. But again, it's just a 'just in case' preventitive.

I said all that, to say this;

My point is simply, ANY catch can you buy is gonna trap oil just like the one you have. I'm saying that one engine WITH a catch can may or may not last as long as one without. Odds are with the engine with a catch can. So then put one up against another............ kinda unnecessary.

Bottom line, one catch can catches 95% of the oil, and the other catches 90% of the oil. On an engine that can survive just fine catching 0% of the oil.

That's all I'm saying. A catch can is a catch can. They will all work just fine.

[gahammerle]

Originally Posted by oville-rider

Well I just got my catch can today but no throttle body. tried to send him a PM.... Account suspended! So does this mean I'm getting no throttle body? Are they out of business or just off line till they get things straighten out? any info out there?

He is still active and doing business on other forums. This ban hasn't slowed him down at all.

[RSokie]

Originally Posted by montreal2010yellow

I know this is not the right thread but I installed 2 cans on my V6.
The one close to the fender is connected to the clean side PCV and the other one on the dirty side (one on top of the engine)

After 700 miles I opened the cans. The clean side had oil fumes into the stuffing I added to the Megan type can which is an empty type can. But for the dirty side there was about 1 height inch of oil accumulation after only 700 miles. Imagine, my car has 16,000 miles now.

I always thought that clean is always better than dirty...


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As for this thread I hope that SC2150 will be back since hI learned a lot on catch cans because of him.

Do you have a pic of where these hoses run?
Like the can to the dirty side and then the one to the clean side, I am more confused on the location of these more than ever now.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by PQ

Honestly, a catch can is a catch can. You can get along just fine without even having one. They ALL work, so just pick a pretty one and get it if you want it. If one works better than another, so what? It isn't gonna be a big enough difference to matter in the long run. These engines have gone into the 250k miles just fine WITHOUT one. (The LS3 platform of course)

There is a big difference between cans. I'm one that has an LS3 with a lot of oil going through the system. After putting an inline filter on the output hose of two different brand of cans the difference is huge in the amount of pull through oil. Now if you are talking about the difference between many of the common designed cans, then I'd agree.

[Padre]

Since the catch-can debate may have had something to do with his suspension, is it wise to start it up in this thread?

Padre

[bob vogel]

Originally Posted by terry_b

I acknowledge the fact that it costs money to run it, but a forum's purpose is information, and there is a wealth to be shared within a community. A silly ban really accomplishes nothing as I still purchased what I needed, and I can still contact him. The shame is what if my concern is shared by even a single person; and that knowledge could have been passed twofold. Can you imagine if a Harvard education could be given open-forum? It's these silly political/financial games that get in the way of real progress - which is most effectively achieved through the sharing of knowledge. I know, deep right?

Anyway, I'm glad to see people coming out for Tracy. A world of help, whether or not any thing is bought or sold. I wasn't even aware he was the vendor at first, I thought he was a pleased customer!

And I hope this thread doesn't disappear... it would only validate my point

+1. just about says it all.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

There is a big difference between cans. I'm one that has an LS3 with a lot of oil going through the system. After putting an inline filter on the output hose of two different brand of cans the difference is huge in the amount of pull through oil. Now if you are talking about the difference between many of the common designed cans, then I'd agree.

Again. My point is these engines will more than likely see internal wear failure long before any failure due to oil beign burnt on the valves or in the cylinders or ports. And seafoam would absolutely be just fine.

So, since, in my opinion, the need for a catch can at all is not as important as made out to be, ANY can is gonna be just fine. Unless one is just NOT catching the oil. Wich I doubt.

Originally Posted by Padre

Since the catch-can debate may have had something to do with his suspension, is it wise to start it up in this thread?

Padre

He was suspended. Not us. And I brought it up to make this thread make sense. We can't have a thread discussing a members suspension.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by PQ

Honestly, a catch can is a catch can. You can get along just fine without even having one. They ALL work, so just pick a pretty one and get it if you want it. If one works better than another, so what? It isn't gonna be a big enough difference to matter in the long run. These engines have gone into the 250k miles just fine WITHOUT one. (The LS3 platform of course)

PQ you being Supercharged should know better than that. When you are out on the edge with a tune for a specific octane fuel it is very important not to be putting anything but fuel into your charge. Crankcase vent gasses can easily cause detonation when using a Roots Blower. Wake up man....smell the toast cooking and do the right thing. If you would like I could send you what I captured recently. It is definately not something you would want to be running thru your intake and throttle body..let alone your screws only to be mixed with your fuel and burned.

Tracy was fantastic for being so paitient and informed about not only the Crankcase ventilation requirements but on so many other high performance mods. I cant wait till he is back..Great guy and provides great products and service.

[n2oSS]

Hmmm vendor gets banned while mods investigate something lol.

I tend to agree with PQ that the catch can is really not as important as hyped. I have actually been bewildered at how so much is said on these forums about catch cans. Then again I am equally shocked at the tech vs bling post on these forums think its about 1/1000.

So that being said I am really shocked a vendor for a product that to me is pretty much bling with a near irrelevant use got banned for just bickering in a forum.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

PQ you being Supercharged should know better than that. When you are out on the edge with a tune for a specific octane fuel it is very important not to be putting anything but fuel into your charge. Crankcase vent gasses can easily cause detonation when using a Roots Blower. Wake up man....smell the toast cooking and do the right thing. If you would like I could send you what I captured recently. It is definately not something you would want to be running thru your intake and throttle body..let alone your screws only to be mixed with your fuel and burned.

Tracy was fantastic for being so paitient and informed about not only the Crankcase ventilation requirements but on so many other high performance mods. I cant wait till he is back..Great guy and provides great products and service.

Right. I get it.

My boost is LOW. You have almost twice the power I do. I know I need a catch can but the power and low boost I'm running isnt' gonna make a difference. I'll be doing a cam soon and I'll HAVE to get one.

My point is simply that the difference in these catch cans are exagerated. FI is different and I said that.