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Matt @ FSP · 09-01-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by avellanet.jr

After seeing an interesting debate in the Atlanta Club Lounge, I figured I would pose the question. I know I just assumed my tune would be unlocked, which it is but how many people don't even know?

If you want, list your shop and opinion.

Is your cars tune unlocked or locked?
Do you think tuners should lock their tunes?

I can assure your tune is UNLOCKED.

I NEVER lock customer's tunes, you paid me for the intellectual property and the VCM where it is stored is yours. I've had trouble with traveling tuners locking their tunes, and then customer comes to our shop and then I have to try to hard flash over it with the GM MDI or replace ECU.

Matt @ FSP · 09-01-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitroman28

I tried to read my ECU with HP after being flashed with SCT and would get an error every time. Couldn't read the ECM.

Also if Custom OS is used with any software, another software cannot read it. For example, if you use a Custom OS on EFILive even without locking the computer, if you try to read with SCT/HPT/Diablosport it would not be able to read.

avellanet.jr · 09-01-2013, 05:15 PM

I was confident you didn't Matt. Just wanted to bring this up. FSP FTW!

ASH@IPF-TUNING · 09-01-2013, 05:19 PM

Hi !

ALL IPF-TUNING Flashes are UNLOCKED ... we must Keep the possibility to reflash the vehicles ECU by GM-MDI ...

We noticed that some Tuners shut OFF the security Service of the ECU after doing the Tuning ... that causes that any other tool or even GM-MDI CANT reflash the ecu back to stock or even Change the Tuning .. in these cases a NEW ECU was the only solution !

Greets ASH@IPF-TUNING

nyrfan · 09-01-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt @ FSP

I can assure your tune is UNLOCKED.

I NEVER lock customer's tunes, you paid me for the intellectual property and the VCM where it is stored is yours. I've had trouble with traveling tuners locking their tunes, and then customer comes to our shop and then I have to try to hard flash over it with the GM MDI or replace ECU.

This is good to know, I was hoping my tune was not locked after reading this thread. Anyway I tried to call you on Saturday but you were probably working in a build. I'm off tomorrow so ill try you again regarding my possible build.

Felix

Sent from my 2SS/RS

Matt @ FSP · 09-01-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

This is good to know, I was hoping my tune was not locked after reading this thread. Anyway I tried to call you on Saturday but you were probably working in a build. I'm off tomorrow so ill try you again regarding my possible build.

Felix

Sent from my 2SS/RS

Ya we're working through labor day weekend to keep on top of projects

Just give me a shout I'll be in the office tomorrow.

Yes no one that has been tuned by us are locked.

etmx183 · 09-02-2013, 07:10 AM

I can assure you Matt's tunes are NOT LOCKED. I love HP Tuners because I can go in and look at all the data after a log. BEST MONEY I'VE EVER SPENT ON TUNING Matt & HP Tuners!!

Matt has put a lot of time into my remote tuning and we are now working on some nitrous tuning. When he gets this nailed down and the weather cooperates with us, you will be seeing some very nice track ETs from my car. Thanks Matt!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt @ FSP

I can assure your tune is UNLOCKED.

I NEVER lock customer's tunes, you paid me for the intellectual property and the VCM where it is stored is yours. I've had trouble with traveling tuners locking their tunes, and then customer comes to our shop and then I have to try to hard flash over it with the GM MDI or replace ECU.

JANNETTYRACING · 09-02-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crime2

You don't lock the tune or the ECM? There was just a thread and Ted said the tune is locked. I know first hand the tune file is locked.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. If it is spelllled wrong, deal with it.

I don't Lock Either, The tune file can be read out and modified with HPtuners.

I never said my tunes are Locked, I said I don't give out the .MTU files which are my Dealer Tune files in SCT format.

If you had trouble reading it that is an HPtuners problem.

Ted.

Rhino79 · 09-02-2013, 07:56 AM

What is the difference int the sct mtu file and having someone read it with hp? It seems like these guys with sct pro racer need to either have that file or else start from scratch or pay another tuner to get involved.

JANNETTYRACING · 09-02-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhino79

What is the difference int the sct mtu file and having someone read it with hp? It seems like these guys with sct pro racer need to either have that file or else start from scratch or pay another tuner to get involved.

As an SCT Dealer and Calibrator I have to get paid to provide a service, this is a service based business.

If they purchase an SCT Proracer Package from me I would Provide a good Base file to start with or if I have tuned they're car Provide their current tune.

When someone tries to back door me then ask for a tune file that is just not fair, so I just don't give them out to just anyone who asks.

Ted.

Rhino79 · 09-02-2013, 11:17 AM

That makes sense. I thought these guys posting already had a remote tune from u

SSawdusty · 09-14-2013, 11:29 AM

I think there's two issues here.

One, is a tune file being in a dealer format(MTU from SCT) that can only be read or modified buy the dealer but it appears that another program(HPTuners) can read and modify it(MTU) as long as it is your current loaded tune. So if this is the case why not let the files be read and modified by all.

Two, is your ECM is locked by a tune shop and nobody has access to do anything unless you have the code to get in.

In both case I think its bull. To say the tune file is intellectual property....well its my car and anything in it is mine. I voided the warranty and gave up the right of having it repaired if any tuning or mods caused the damage. So if any tune shop wants to carry the warranty after the tune is installed...... well I think there is only a few and there is specific clauses that they have. As for for locking me out of my ECM......it would be all out war if that happened.

csjcsj · 09-14-2013, 02:29 PM

That is a good point about warranting their work or engine damage if they lock the tune! That would be well worth it being locked! But I don't think anyone would warrant an engine pushing 6-700 hp! Just saying!

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 09-19-2013, 02:07 PM

Unlocked but I leave footprints...

View Poll Results: Is Your Tune Locked Or Unlocked?
Locked	9	15.79%
Unlocked	40	70.18%
Not Sure	8	14.04%
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09-14-2013, 11:29 AM	#40
SSawdusty Crewel Jewel Drives: RJT-2SS-RS-6M Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nanaimo, BC Posts: 426	I think there's two issues here. One, is a tune file being in a dealer format(MTU from SCT) that can only be read or modified buy the dealer but it appears that another program(HPTuners) can read and modify it(MTU) as long as it is your current loaded tune. So if this is the case why not let the files be read and modified by all. Two, is your ECM is locked by a tune shop and nobody has access to do anything unless you have the code to get in. In both case I think its bull. To say the tune file is intellectual property....well its my car and anything in it is mine. I voided the warranty and gave up the right of having it repaired if any tuning or mods caused the damage. So if any tune shop wants to carry the warranty after the tune is installed...... well I think there is only a few and there is specific clauses that they have. As for for locking me out of my ECM......it would be all out war if that happened. __________________ Whippled

09-14-2013, 02:29 PM	#41
csjcsj Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 6spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Jefferson, Ga Posts: 4,399 View My Garage	That is a good point about warranting their work or engine damage if they lock the tune! That would be well worth it being locked! But I don't think anyone would warrant an engine pushing 6-700 hp! Just saying! __________________

09-01-2013, 05:15 PM	#31
avellanet.jr Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2014 ZL1 #77 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 824	I was confident you didn't Matt. Just wanted to bring this up. FSP FTW!

09-01-2013, 05:19 PM	#32
ASH@IPF-TUNING Drives: 4x4 Turbo Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 136	Hi ! ALL IPF-TUNING Flashes are UNLOCKED ... we must Keep the possibility to reflash the vehicles ECU by GM-MDI ... We noticed that some Tuners shut OFF the security Service of the ECU after doing the Tuning ... that causes that any other tool or even GM-MDI CANT reflash the ecu back to stock or even Change the Tuning .. in these cases a NEW ECU was the only solution ! Greets ASH@IPF-TUNING

09-02-2013, 07:56 AM	#37
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	What is the difference int the sct mtu file and having someone read it with hp? It seems like these guys with sct pro racer need to either have that file or else start from scratch or pay another tuner to get involved.

09-02-2013, 11:17 AM	#39
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	That makes sense. I thought these guys posting already had a remote tune from u

09-19-2013, 02:07 PM	#42
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 12,170	Unlocked but I leave footprints...