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tramtwo · 10-27-2012, 08:16 AM

Any of you tuners haves something in the works? Will a 1le specific tune even be necessary... I mean because of the MN6 transmission and final drive ratio of 3.91 being different than the SS?

Synner · 10-27-2012, 11:48 AM

Theres nothing unique about an LS3 with 3.91 gears.

tramtwo · 10-27-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Synner

Theres nothing unique about an LS3 with 3.91 gears.

So the different gearing ratios because of the MN6 transmission is irrelevant to a tune? That cant be right, can it?

Synner · 10-27-2012, 12:03 PM

The engine needs an optimum tune at whatever rpm, theres a couple things that need to be changed for rear gears but its no different on the 1le than on any other camaro with a change.

Tranny gearing will change the rpm the engine is at for a certain speed, the optimal tune for an engine at a given rpm isn't altered. People just need to be smarter about cam changes that kill the midrange for their dyno queens.

VR1LE · 10-27-2012, 12:04 PM

Since their is less load on the low rpm due to the torque multiplication factors involved you could probably get away with a little more timing on the bottom end, this is a question for the tuners out there as I am no tuner just my thoughts from being around this stuff for so long.

tramtwo · 10-27-2012, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

The engine needs an optimum tune at whatever rpm, theres a couple things that need to be changed for rear gears but its no different on the 1le than on any other camaro with a change.

Tranny gearing will change the rpm the engine is at for a certain speed, the optimal tune for an engine at a given rpm isn't altered. People just need to be smarter about cam changes that kill the midrange for their dyno queens.

Thanks for your reply.

Synner · 10-27-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VR1LE

Since their is less load on the low rpm due to the torque multiplication factors involved you could probably get away with a little more timing on the bottom end, this is a question for the tuners out there as I am no tuner just my thoughts from being around this stuff for so long.

Have you done the math on the gearing? The tranny and rear will mostly cancel out but I'm not sure the exact numbers. I think it's a tad higher than standard, can't remember the thread where they measured it out. It's the close ratio that is the primary benefit so no short shifting 1st/2nd.

VR1LE · 10-27-2012, 03:44 PM

ok got it that makes sense thanks

tramtwo · 01-12-2013, 04:12 PM

Looking to install my headers....

Kelly@PCMofNC · 01-15-2013, 08:17 AM

The fact that it is a 1LE won't make the job any different for the tuner, they'd still do it the same way. Load a base program, adjust fuel trims, timing, and other small things that help with driveability, and then finish up on the dyno to fine tune the air fuel ratio and figure out what timing works best for it. As far as having different final drive ratios, that information is already part of the stock operating system, so when you read that file out it's not something you have to factor in, if that makes sense.

Good luck with the headers, they are a nice addition to any LS3!!

10-27-2012, 08:16 AM	#1
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	1LE specific tune? Any of you tuners haves something in the works? Will a 1le specific tune even be necessary... I mean because of the MN6 transmission and final drive ratio of 3.91 being different than the SS?

10-27-2012, 12:04 PM	#5
VR1LE lighten up Francis Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Liberty City,FL Posts: 218	Since their is less load on the low rpm due to the torque multiplication factors involved you could probably get away with a little more timing on the bottom end, this is a question for the tuners out there as I am no tuner just my thoughts from being around this stuff for so long. __________________ 1SS 1LE track rat ordered 10/19 Arrived at dealer 12/26/12 after hours delivery

10-27-2012, 03:44 PM	#8
VR1LE lighten up Francis Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Liberty City,FL Posts: 218	ok got it that makes sense thanks __________________ 1SS 1LE track rat ordered 10/19 Arrived at dealer 12/26/12 after hours delivery

10-27-2012, 11:48 AM	#2
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	Theres nothing unique about an LS3 with 3.91 gears.

10-27-2012, 12:03 PM	#4
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	The engine needs an optimum tune at whatever rpm, theres a couple things that need to be changed for rear gears but its no different on the 1le than on any other camaro with a change. Tranny gearing will change the rpm the engine is at for a certain speed, the optimal tune for an engine at a given rpm isn't altered. People just need to be smarter about cam changes that kill the midrange for their dyno queens.

01-12-2013, 04:12 PM	#9
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	Looking to install my headers....

01-15-2013, 08:17 AM	#10
Kelly@PCMofNC Drives: 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 959	The fact that it is a 1LE won't make the job any different for the tuner, they'd still do it the same way. Load a base program, adjust fuel trims, timing, and other small things that help with driveability, and then finish up on the dyno to fine tune the air fuel ratio and figure out what timing works best for it. As far as having different final drive ratios, that information is already part of the stock operating system, so when you read that file out it's not something you have to factor in, if that makes sense. Good luck with the headers, they are a nice addition to any LS3!!