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Dnz06 · 02-24-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

I had an 11 L99. With your mods you'll most likely lose to the 5.0. I'd get a tune and then you have a real good shot at winning. My best time with the L99 was 12.66@112 with full exhaust, intake and tune on the P-zeros. I ran 12.79@113 on a 90 degree day with the 5.0 when it was stock. only had 500 miles on her at the time of the run also. The myth that the 11-14 GTs are faster than the 15-16s has been dispelled many times now.

I'll be getting my kooks & cam then my tune this summer. I should be more than good!

GossipSquirrelJelena · 02-24-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnz06

I'll be getting my kooks & cam then my tune this summer. I should be more than good!

I would say so. Think about a converter down the line also. I do a converter to ever auto car I own. Best mod for an auto car you can do IMO. Good luck.

Mkn95u0 · 02-24-2016, 03:47 PM

you'll always hear paper race input. on paper, mustang wins - simple answer.

now, in an actual race, there are a lot of variables. you're in an Auto, he's in a Manual. It's close enough to call this a drivers race. Most of the MT mustangs i've raced can't launch and shift slow. this isn't going to be a problem for you since you're in an auto, launches are more consistent and shifts are significantly quicker.

go race him and find out.

RaceFuel · 02-24-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkn95u0

you'll always hear paper race input. on paper, mustang wins - simple answer.

now, in an actual race, there are a lot of variables. you're in an Auto, he's in a Manual. It's close enough to call this a drivers race. Most of the MT mustangs i've raced can't launch and shift slow. this isn't going to be a problem for you since you're in an auto, launches are more consistent and shifts are significantly quicker.

go race him and find out.

Yep

The bullshit stops when the ambers drop.

Dnz06 · 02-24-2016, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

I would say so. Think about a converter down the line also. I do a converter to ever auto car I own. Best mod for an auto car you can do IMO. Good luck.

Would you happen to have the website for this item? I haven't heard about it. What does it do?

GossipSquirrelJelena · 02-24-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnz06

Would you happen to have the website for this item? I haven't heard about it. What does it do?

Sure. I have a Circle D 3800 stall speed converter in my Mustang. Very high quality. That's the first link.Yank is also a well known company among the GM crowd. Second link. Normally a converter is worth 3 to 5 10ths in a quarter mile.It allows you to launch at a much higher RPM and keeps you in your power band.

http://www.circledspecialties.com/c-50-6l8090.aspx

http://www.circledspecialties.com/c-50-6l8090.aspx

booneSS13 · 02-27-2016, 08:24 PM

If you want to run with the 5.0's I'd go start with a gear and then long tubes if I were you. I'd get the 3:91's from GM. From my experience with drag racing the camaro, these cars are very heavy and they need something like a shorter gear to get it off the line and into it's power band quicker. Extra horsepower is always nice but torque will always give you the advantage with a heavy car.

rdavis · 03-01-2016, 12:52 PM

Just FYI I just traded my 13 5.0 for my 12 SS. The 5.0 was a factory 3.73 geared car. Stock except for a tune from Steeda. My SS is stock. I would not stand a chance against the 5.0. They (at least mine) was a rocket. My friend has a 10 SS that at the time had headers, cold air & a dyno tune & we were pretty much even. So in my opinion having owned both, you will have to be modded to run with one.

rontammy0 · 03-01-2016, 01:01 PM

Weird ..my buddy has a 11 5.0. 373 gears...cai and 3 inch exhaust. He would beat my l99 from a roll or a dig. After hi flow cats .. shorty headers ....cai it's not that close. This was before my tune. So my modded ss beats his mustang. FYI we have raced more time then I can count. He is getting a tune this spring. I've not told him about my 391s going in soon. I'll keep it a secret.

JakeW1990 · 03-01-2016, 02:40 PM

I'm curious as to what you guys are doing on these races? BONE STOCK (my car had GM Performance Exhaust stock, minimal gain if any) 45mph roll I pulled a 5.0 Coyote with suspension, exhaust, and tune easy. There was no gap closure either.

When I got my LTs, 3" collector-to-muffler, QTP 3" cut-outs, I only pulled them more. You guys are stating 13 second 1/4s? When I made 392/393, exhaust and tune, I ran 12.08 and 1.8 60's. I beat a 5.0 with matching mods, down to both having radials, by .3 on an 1/8th consistently. I'm an M6 and it was an auto.

When I put my BTR Stage 4 cam in, any coyote that wanted to roll race looked at the tail lights several lengths back. LOL. Never got to track the cam but I'd say with BTR Stage 4 cam I'd have logged 11.5x 1/4's

What are your launching/driving techniques? Maybe I can help. I have never lost to a similarly modded mustang. ...

2010reddevil · 03-01-2016, 02:44 PM

The only 5.0 that I had raced that was right with me was modded more than me and my good buddy who has a very lightweight stripper 3.73 car. And there's no way I'd ever even consider a R/T Challenger. Those things are turds. My old 3v laid waste to every single 5.7L Hemi I came across.

JakeW1990 · 03-01-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CreativeDawn

The more I see the new 5.0's, the more I want to switch over and get one! It's either a used 2013/14/15 Camaro SS, a Dodge Challenger RT or SP (if I can get a reasonable deal), or the new 2015 Mustang 5.0!

The new 2016 Camaro just didn't do it for me when I took a peak at one in person! Too bad, they looked nice in the pictures.

Whaaa?

The 2016 SS is 250lbs lighter AND makes more HP/TQ across a taller powerband thanks to direct injection. A BONE STOCK 2016 SS will out run all fundamental mods on previous models. It would take more than just exhaust and tune to outrun one. 250lbs lighter + radials/skinnies = 350bs lighter. 100lbs = .1-.13 on a 1/4 in the 5th gens. Therefore, you're looking at close to a half second slower. C&D advertises 2010 SS runs 13.0 while a 2016 SS runs 12.3 STOCK... I haven't looked at interior pics, but if you are looking for performance, well that would be a heck of a base platform!

GossipSquirrelJelena · 03-01-2016, 08:14 PM

LOL driver error anyone? This 5.0 will do 11.5 on intake tune and converter. Nothing more needed.

CamaroDreams76 · 03-01-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

LOL driver error anyone? This 5.0 will do 11.5 on intake tune and converter. Nothing more needed.

Coyote motors do run strong for sure and respond extremely well to a tune.

My experience with 5.0s.

12 Boss 302 vs my 1LE (intake and PTB, stock tune): neck and neck, He would shift I'd nose out, he'd shift ID nose out. At 150 it was nose to nose. Dig I would take it off the line and keep a lead.

13 Boss 302 (mods unknown, stock i thnk) vs my 1LE (intake, PTB, stock tune): Boss 302 runs 13.8, I run a 13.4. Guy was sleeping on the light big time. I definitely spanked the driver, not the car having already run a boss 302 prior. Still ran a better time and a W is a W.

13 5.0 manual(catless, exhaust, intake, Bama custom tune) vs my 1LE (intake, shorty headers, high flow cats, PTB, MGW shifter, STOCK TUNE): drivers race really. 40 roll, If that 5.0 got the hit he would pull about half car and stay there til he hit 5th then I would literally walk away, that's about 120-130 though. If I got the hit it would be a tie until the 5.0 gets to 5th gear then I'd walk him. The 5.0 would spin too much on a dig to get a good race.

15 5.0 manual (stock I think) vs my 1LE (intake, PTB, high flow cats, stock tune): 30 roll, I pull about a car and a half ahead, when I shift it would come up about half a car, 3/4 of a car, then the 5.0 would shift and drop right back.

02-24-2016, 03:47 PM	#31
Mkn95u0 Drives: 2012 IBM L99 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 484 View My Garage	you'll always hear paper race input. on paper, mustang wins - simple answer. now, in an actual race, there are a lot of variables. you're in an Auto, he's in a Manual. It's close enough to call this a drivers race. Most of the MT mustangs i've raced can't launch and shift slow. this isn't going to be a problem for you since you're in an auto, launches are more consistent and shifts are significantly quicker. go race him and find out. __________________ Robert 12.012 @ 115.75mph DA: 2371 \| 486rwhp/467rwtq (11/8/2015)M 11.265 @ 123.55mph DA: 2318 \| 526rwhp/532rwtq (11/19/2016)M 10.722 @ 132.21mph DA: 850 \| 645rwhp/581rwtq (12/3/2017)M 10.609 @ 130.19 DA: 975 \| 675rwhp/629rwtq (2/16/2020)D Build: E-Force w/ 3.25" pulley (11lbs of boost), 10% OD under pulley, Fore Dual Fuel System, ID850's, AEM CAI, Borla Long Tubes, Flowmaster Super 10's, Circle D 3200 converter 258mm triple disc lockup, cam 226/242 116+4 LSA, ZL-1 Rear end, E85 & BRC Raceworks Tune (previously known as CMS) Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/RobertMitchellRCM

03-01-2016, 02:40 PM	#38
JakeW1990 Drives: 2010 Camaro RS/2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 312	I'm curious as to what you guys are doing on these races? BONE STOCK (my car had GM Performance Exhaust stock, minimal gain if any) 45mph roll I pulled a 5.0 Coyote with suspension, exhaust, and tune easy. There was no gap closure either. When I got my LTs, 3" collector-to-muffler, QTP 3" cut-outs, I only pulled them more. You guys are stating 13 second 1/4s? When I made 392/393, exhaust and tune, I ran 12.08 and 1.8 60's. I beat a 5.0 with matching mods, down to both having radials, by .3 on an 1/8th consistently. I'm an M6 and it was an auto. When I put my BTR Stage 4 cam in, any coyote that wanted to roll race looked at the tail lights several lengths back. LOL. Never got to track the cam but I'd say with BTR Stage 4 cam I'd have logged 11.5x 1/4's What are your launching/driving techniques? Maybe I can help. I have never lost to a similarly modded mustang. ... __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 12.08 @ 115 - 9/2015 (392hp/393tq) NA w/ Exhaust + Tune 11/2015 (464hp/439tq) ^ + BTR Stage 4 w/ Halltech CAI Engine: BTR Stage 4 Cam; BTR Dual Spring Kit; C7R Chain; LS2 Tensioner; High Volume Oil Pump Drivetrain: ACT T2S-G05 x2 Disc XT Street Kit Exhaust: Kook's 1 7/8" Headers w/ Off-road pipes;Kook's 3" cat-back; QTP 3" cut-outs Suspension: BMR 1.4" Front & 1.5" Rear Springs; Blackdog Solid Mounts w/ Poly Bushings

03-01-2016, 02:44 PM	#39
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	The only 5.0 that I had raced that was right with me was modded more than me and my good buddy who has a very lightweight stripper 3.73 car. And there's no way I'd ever even consider a R/T Challenger. Those things are turds. My old 3v laid waste to every single 5.7L Hemi I came across. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

02-27-2016, 08:24 PM	#35
booneSS13 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 718	If you want to run with the 5.0's I'd go start with a gear and then long tubes if I were you. I'd get the 3:91's from GM. From my experience with drag racing the camaro, these cars are very heavy and they need something like a shorter gear to get it off the line and into it's power band quicker. Extra horsepower is always nice but torque will always give you the advantage with a heavy car.

03-01-2016, 12:52 PM	#36
rdavis Drives: 2012 SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 121	Just FYI I just traded my 13 5.0 for my 12 SS. The 5.0 was a factory 3.73 geared car. Stock except for a tune from Steeda. My SS is stock. I would not stand a chance against the 5.0. They (at least mine) was a rocket. My friend has a 10 SS that at the time had headers, cold air & a dyno tune & we were pretty much even. So in my opinion having owned both, you will have to be modded to run with one.

03-01-2016, 01:01 PM	#37
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Weird ..my buddy has a 11 5.0. 373 gears...cai and 3 inch exhaust. He would beat my l99 from a roll or a dig. After hi flow cats .. shorty headers ....cai it's not that close. This was before my tune. So my modded ss beats his mustang. FYI we have raced more time then I can count. He is getting a tune this spring. I've not told him about my 391s going in soon. I'll keep it a secret.

03-01-2016, 08:14 PM	#41
GossipSquirrelJelena Account Suspended Drives: 2015 Mustang GT. Supercharged. Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: South Jersey Posts: 971	LOL driver error anyone? This 5.0 will do 11.5 on intake tune and converter. Nothing more needed.