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Having been heavily involved with the build of a Camaro with a LSA (Conrad Grunewald/Blu808/Hankook's Formula D Camaro), I can say that it is a fantastic fit for this car and knowing what other engines are available, I would be very suprised to see the Z28 come out with anything else. |
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03-23-2010, 07:52 PM | #31 |
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Thats where I'd put my money.
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If you ask me if eliminating the LSA shortblock in favor of the LS9 I'd say yes, but it's going to cost a lot more. I think the best bet of making Z28 remotely affordable to regular Camaro-people is going to be LSA, straight out of the CTS-V. I talk out my butt though
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And yes, IMHO if the procedures utilized are sound and the employees well trained hand assembly, with the assistance of high tech equipment, can create a product with a level of quality that easily surpasses that of an assembly line piece, all else being equal. (all else being equal meaning that hand assembly obviously cannot make up for poor development or inferior component parts, etc) Quote:
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Question to all of you much smarter than I, if GM takes the LSA straight out of the CTS-V and drops it into the Camaro (Z28), do they have to spend the time and money to certify the engine again since it was already certified for the Caddy?
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Yes. Every powertrain combination needs to be certified and validated for each car.
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03-24-2010, 10:51 PM | #39 |
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OK thanks, I was hoping that if GM did not have to spend the time and money to re-certify the the LSA for the Z28, it might be an easier choice to use the Caddy engine.
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The assembly line vs. hand assembly cost discussion is moot without an inside analysis from GM. Those of you thinking that there's no difference in finished product between an assembly-line engine and a hand built, top marque engine have never had an engine built by hand. Balanced/blueprinted with only the choicest parts not only makes a discernibly sweeter motor, but it puts the ZR1 in the same category as the top of the line Porsches, Ferrari's and Lamborghinis by having a hand-assembled engine. The Camaro will not see this.
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Thanks for the info about the LSA swap. It was good to hear that the engine fit under the stock hood, not so crazy about having to remove the the wiper tray, especially here in rainy Florida. I am sure that GM will get it figured out before the Z28 is released with hopefully an LSA in the engine compartment and operational wipers.
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You don't need to cut or remove the wiper tray. Conrad modified his but I modified the intercooler top on my LSA.
GM would need to re design an intercooler top specific to the Camaro. Robin
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