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*Mindz* · 07-21-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LegacyZ28

He thought you meant the BMW M6.

I was lost, sorry.

scotchsride09 · 07-21-2008, 06:22 PM

They may make it a mechanical lock-out too... In my old BMW 3-series, my current Frontier and the 2nd gen Frontier (current gen) you have to push the shift knob down into the gearbox to pull it into reverse; which is difficult to do unless you mean to and are trying. Shifting between forward gears would be lateral force, shifting into reverse would be a vertical force... very different muscles used, very hard to do accidentally.

Or at least, I hope that's what they do... reverse next to first never bothered me in my BMW but it might if I can do it too easily in the Camaro.

MAROobsession · 07-21-2008, 06:23 PM

good im not used to driving with reverse on the right side since currently my first and only car is an AT, however with the manual driving that i am used to, with my dads car u shift to the left for reverse in 911 turbo. So i wont need much adjusting for the Camaro

Redline · 07-21-2008, 06:24 PM

Guys the TR6060 tranny has reverse on the right, not the left. (I have one in my GT500, AWESOME tranny by the way!) Must be the V6 trans with it on the left...

Redline · 07-21-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fastball

I have one question for this thread......

Who gives a turkey which side reverse is on?

I mean, it's not like you row through the reverse gears while carving through a slalom course. You use it for all of about 20 seconds in a day.

They could put the reverse gear between my legs and I wouldn't care

Well, maybe I would.

*TAG UR IT* · 07-21-2008, 06:33 PM

Ok...well now I'm lost. left, right....need to go back to specs page....

o2camaross · 07-21-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redline

Guys the TR6060 tranny has reverse on the right, not the left. (I have one in my GT500, AWESOME tranny by the way!) Must be the V6 trans with it on the left...

thats what i was thinking since the TR6060 took the place of the T56 and is basically the same but a little more built.

garfin · 07-21-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by o2camaross

thats what i was thinking since the TR6060 took the place of the T56 and is basically the same but a little more built.

Camaro V8 = TR6060 6-spd made by Tremec
Camaro V6 = 6-spd made by Aisin

Best regardSS,

Elie

bouncertime · 07-21-2008, 07:21 PM

All the sticks I have driven have had reverse on the left side with a lockout. It doesn't matter to me which side it is on, I will adapt to either.

topgun1 · 07-21-2008, 09:13 PM

There will be a reverse lock-out i'm pretty sure, like most newer manuals have--no need to worry about accidental shifting into reverse.

TheCaptain · 07-21-2008, 09:17 PM

If reverse is on the left, it will be wierd, but nothing i can't adapt to. And either way, it will most likely have a lockout, like my 07 Cobalt SS, where you have to pull a little knob up, in order to go into reverse. It confused me the first time i went to use it, but from that point on i haven't had any problems or gripes with it. In fact, its nice. Knowing i can't go from fourth into reverse at 110K (or whenever).

theholycow · 07-22-2008, 10:42 AM

My VW has reverse in the upper-left and has a mechanical lockout that requires you to push the shifter down into the floor before moving it left beyond the 1st/2nd position. It's comfortable and confidence-inspiring. I'd rather risk backing into someone at a traffic light than missing the lockout going into 6th and have the engine stall and the car spin out on me.

Warghost · 07-22-2008, 10:53 AM

Two issues with Reverse on the left side:

I personally never drive on the highway, it's all stop-n-go traffic and stop signs/lights, so I am dropping into first all the time.

Also, if GM does put the Reverse Lockout button into the design, then everyone who wants to replace their shifter will be forced to spend more money on a more complex shifter, or may only have a couple options available to them. Personally, I see the Camaro's shifter being the first thing I want to replace.

I think the Tremecs are all on the right side anyway, so it's a moot point for me. I don't want the Aisin tranny. But like TAG said, if it ain't broke...

One other thing: Some have been mentioning that it would be difficult to accidently put the car into Reverse, or require a lot of strength, but Elie (garfin on these forums) did drive a pre-pro model in Milford, and did accidently put the car into Reverse. So, it happens. That car was a V6 with the Aisin manual.

theholycow · 07-22-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Warghost

Also, if GM does put the Reverse Lockout button into the design

We've seen photos of the production car. There's no button. It's probably a mechanical lockout like I described above that requires you to push the shifter itself down.

07-21-2008, 06:22 PM	#16
scotchsride09 It's STARSCREAM!!! Drives: 2003 Nissan Frontier S/C DR Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 303	They may make it a mechanical lock-out too... In my old BMW 3-series, my current Frontier and the 2nd gen Frontier (current gen) you have to push the shift knob down into the gearbox to pull it into reverse; which is difficult to do unless you mean to and are trying. Shifting between forward gears would be lateral force, shifting into reverse would be a vertical force... very different muscles used, very hard to do accidentally. Or at least, I hope that's what they do... reverse next to first never bothered me in my BMW but it might if I can do it too easily in the Camaro. __________________ Did I mention I have a sense of humor? Right now it's an '03 Nissan Frontier Supercharged Desert Runner I call Starscream. On order is a 1SS/ RS IBM with Black Rally Stripes, Beige Interior, manual transmission and a sunroof! Oh, and a stereo upgrade too! Ordered from CamaroScotty in WI. How will I get my baby home?

07-21-2008, 07:21 PM	#23
bouncertime Miller High Life Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1, 2017 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,199 View My Garage	All the sticks I have driven have had reverse on the left side with a lockout. It doesn't matter to me which side it is on, I will adapt to either. __________________ Jimmy

07-21-2008, 09:13 PM	#24
topgun1 Drives: 10 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,940 View My Garage	There will be a reverse lock-out i'm pretty sure, like most newer manuals have--no need to worry about accidental shifting into reverse. __________________ 5th Gen Camaros of the Carolinas SIM, 2SS/RS LS3 5/7/11 453.9 RWHP 427.5 RWTQ VMS Stage 2.5 Comp Cams kit, Cold Air Inductions intake, ADM race scoop, DT 1 3/4" headers, Solo cats, 3" Magnaflow catback, Pypes cutouts, HP tune, H&R SuperSport springs, Eibach sways/spacers, TexasSpeed UD pulley, LSR tensioner pulley, Barton shifter, skip shift eliminator, powder-coated calipers, R1 concept rotors, StopTech pads, Granatelli wires, Lloyds mats, tint, AAC afterburner taillamps, AAC scanner/sidemarkers, SRP pedals, custom engine cover, black bowties, Ridergraphix hood spears....

07-21-2008, 09:17 PM	#25
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	If reverse is on the left, it will be wierd, but nothing i can't adapt to. And either way, it will most likely have a lockout, like my 07 Cobalt SS, where you have to pull a little knob up, in order to go into reverse. It confused me the first time i went to use it, but from that point on i haven't had any problems or gripes with it. In fact, its nice. Knowing i can't go from fourth into reverse at 110K (or whenever). __________________

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MAROobsession Drives: 05 Honda Accord V6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Palm Beach FL Posts: 87	good im not used to driving with reverse on the right side since currently my first and only car is an AT, however with the manual driving that i am used to, with my dads car u shift to the left for reverse in 911 turbo. So i wont need much adjusting for the Camaro

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Redline Drives: 2007 GT500 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kent Island, Maryland Posts: 12	Guys the TR6060 tranny has reverse on the right, not the left. (I have one in my GT500, AWESOME tranny by the way!) Must be the V6 trans with it on the left...

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TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	Ok...well now I'm lost. left, right....need to go back to specs page....

07-22-2008, 10:53 AM	#27
Warghost Drives: Camaros & Mustangs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Port St Lucie, FL. Posts: 168	Two issues with Reverse on the left side: I personally never drive on the highway, it's all stop-n-go traffic and stop signs/lights, so I am dropping into first all the time. Also, if GM does put the Reverse Lockout button into the design, then everyone who wants to replace their shifter will be forced to spend more money on a more complex shifter, or may only have a couple options available to them. Personally, I see the Camaro's shifter being the first thing I want to replace. I think the Tremecs are all on the right side anyway, so it's a moot point for me. I don't want the Aisin tranny. But like TAG said, if it ain't broke... One other thing: Some have been mentioning that it would be difficult to accidently put the car into Reverse, or require a lot of strength, but Elie (garfin on these forums) did drive a pre-pro model in Milford, and did accidently put the car into Reverse. So, it happens. That car was a V6 with the Aisin manual.