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Old 11-27-2009, 01:15 AM   #15
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Ah yes now talk to the criminal business men.

Paying more for less.

Sounds like the new buick motto.

Its not pontiacs fault that GM ran them into the ground, nor olds, or whatever car manufacturer made awesome cars but got put to the wayside because GM was too shortsighted to move past cloning pieces of crap during the 80's and 90's and 00's.
Ah, ok. So Pontiac should have retained their independance from GM corporate. Have an independent design and engineering team dedicated to the brand. To do the exact same work that the folks at Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, Holden, Opel, Saab, Daewoo, Saturn and any others that I have missed. Then they'd be profitable, as would all the other brands GM has around the world, right?

Regardless of what happened decades ago, GM had to act based on today. And as it sits, Buick provides a lot more return for GM than Pontiac does. I'd love it if Pontiac could have stuck around. I like the brand and I drive a Grand Am, not an Alero or Malibu because I prefer how this car was done over the other two.

To make Pontiac unique from Chevy would require either importing foreign cars, which isn't cheap and sometimes doesn't matter, having substantially different styling (more expensive), or having completely unique platforms (very expensive). Problem with that is Pontiacs can't cost much more than a comparable Chevy or too close to a similar Buick or Cadillac. It worked reasonably well for decades but the market became too crowded with brands like Nissan. Essentially they got squeezed out of the middle.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:41 AM   #16
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I'd forgive GM if they brought some preformance into the buick lineup....

Wildcat, skylark, but not just some 'turbo 6' op.
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:47 AM   #17
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Yes it is good to see more lately shitty US brands thats been around for so long get killed off
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:59 AM   #18
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:04 AM   #19
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I'd forgive GM if they brought some preformance into the buick lineup....

Wildcat, skylark, but not just some 'turbo 6' op.
a tubro 6 wouldnt be bad. its like a modern thing to do anyways. plus it would be like the grand national. super bad ass.
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Wouldnt be bad, but there should be at least an 8 as well.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:23 AM   #21
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Wouldnt be bad, but there should be at least an 8 as well.
for sure a v8. its like mandatory lol even the hyundai genesis has a v8. but was the g8 the only recent pontiac with a v8?
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