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Old 04-26-2010, 06:27 AM   #1
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INSIDE LINE Tests Manual '10 Camaro SS vs '11 Mustang GT



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On the quarter-mile at Auto Club Speedway in lush, parklike Fontana, California, IL's long-term Camaro SS whomped to 60 mph from a standstill in just 5.1 seconds with the traction control turned off (4.8 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip). The full quarter-mile went by in 13.1 seconds at 110.4 mph.


Our red Mustang GT (on all-season Pirelli P Zero Nero tires) matched the Camaro SS's blast to 60 mph by hitting that speed in an identical 5.1 seconds from a standstill with the traction control turned off (4.8 seconds with 1 foot of rollout). But the quarter-mile took another two-tenths to complete with a slightly lower trap speed, 13.3 seconds at 107.3 mph


On the slalom course, the Mustang GT waltzes through at a respectable 65.9 mph while the Camaro goes full blitz at 68.2 mph. At the skid pad the Mustang orbits at 0.87g, while the Camaro is slightly better at 0.89g. The Camaro may not win the argument when it comes to the sense of subjective engagement by the driver, but its handling performance is undeniably impressive.




The Brembo-equipped Camaro dominates the braking zone with consistent 111-foot stops from 60 mph. The best that the Mustang can do on its all-weather rubber is 117 feet. We should note, however, that the blue Mustang GT with the optional Brembos and summer tires did the job in just 109 feet.





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Old 04-26-2010, 06:37 AM   #2
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Interesting that the tests show that these cars are almost spot on... with the Camaro beating the Mustang in almost every performance test.

Of course the Mustang Cheerers will say it was about the Tires... but I could counter that with the fact that the Camaro has larger heavier wheels.... not to mention weighs 200lbs more.

Of course the Mustang won... but not because of performance.. because for some reason reviewers like contemporary interiors versus radical ones. To me... even if I thought the interior of the Camaro was too radical... the outside styling would convince me that I had to have one. It's effin gorgeous.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:48 AM   #3
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well maybe the mustang is not going to be as strong as we thought.of course this is only one comparison.if these cars are indeed going to run this close,looks like it is going to be a drivers race at the track.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:53 AM   #4
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I wonder why they used the GT/CS instead of the regular GT
the GT/CS from what I have read comes with all season tires, while the standard GT comes with summer tires, also the GT/CS comes with 3.55 gears.

So they tested a GT/CS with all season tires and a 3.55 gear here.
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:54 AM   #5
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I noticed the Camaro they used was their long term tester, I wonder how many miles it had on it and how many miles the Mustang had on it? Could it be the Mustang has not completly broken in yet while the Camaro has? Just a thought..
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Well this review definitely puts to light the fact that power to weight ratio isn't the only thing determining who would win the race. All the other reviews I've seen to date showed the Mustang winning. Was that because the Mustang had the summer tires + 3.55 gears? If that's the case I can see why it'd win. But the stock Mustang, or even certain editions may not win every test. This is interesting. This almost makes it even more obvious that GM should offer performance upgrades from the factory just to make sure people know a properly upgraded Camaro with minimal mods could easily beat a Mustang For example, I'm thinking suspension and gearing options...
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:13 AM   #7
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Well this review definitely puts to light the fact that power to weight ratio isn't the only thing determining who would win the race. All the other reviews I've seen to date showed the Mustang winning. Was that because the Mustang had the summer tires + 3.55 gears? If that's the case I can see why it'd win. But the stock Mustang, or even certain editions may not win every test. This is interesting. This almost makes it even more obvious that GM should offer performance upgrades from the factory just to make sure people know a properly upgraded Camaro with minimal mods could easily beat a Mustang For example, I'm thinking suspension and gearing options...
The really quick mustang times(~12.7) have been with summer tires and 3.73 rear ends.
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Old 04-26-2010, 07:48 AM   #8
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i figured the taller gears would hurt it a bit. high hp low torque isn't a good combo for highway gears. see 96 cobra.
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The real answer her is that no the Mustang definitely won't romp the Camaro. However we need to see a test of a GT with the track pack and summer tires to get a final comparison. based on this though they seem to be about dead even with a slight advantage likely to come to the Mustang GT track pack version when they test that.
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The real answer her is that no the Mustang definitely won't romp the Camaro. However we need to see a test of a GT with the track pack and summer tires to get a final comparison. based on this though they seem to be about dead even with a slight advantage likely to come to the Mustang GT track pack version when they test that.
There is no more 'track pack" per say it's all standard on the GT.
The GT/CS in this test has 3.55 gears, auto and all season tires.
The GT than ran 12.7 was a standard GT with 3.73 and summer tires (standard on GT)

this is what I gathered from my research.
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There is no more 'track pack" it's all standard on the GT.
The GT/CS in this test has 3.55 geards and all season tires.
The GT than ran 12.7 was a standard GT with 3.73 and summer tires (standard on GT)

this is what I gathered from my research.
the 3:73's aren't standard on the gt. i think 3:31's are
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Regardless of what rubber is on the Mustang the trap speed tells the tale.

This is a more apples-to-apples comparison than "other" comparison tests.
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:53 AM   #13
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I believe the track pack is pretty much standard on the 2011 Mustang if I'm not mistaken. So this Mustang GT already should have the best you can get from factory ordering stock with the upgrades. However I may be wrong about this.
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There is no more 'track pack" per say it's all standard on the GT.
The GT/CS in this test has 3.55 gears, auto and all season tires.
The GT than ran 12.7 was a standard GT with 3.73 and summer tires (standard on GT)

this is what I gathered from my research.
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the 3:73's aren't standard on the gt. i think 3:31's are
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I believe the track pack is pretty much standard on the 2011 Mustang if I'm not mistaken. So this Mustang GT already should have the best you can get from factory ordering stock with the upgrades. However I may be wrong about this.
I went on the Ford website and found you need to order the 19" Dark Stainless wheels (which has summer tires) and you get the Brembo Brakes with that option. Standard is a 3.31 rear, and you can choose 3.55 or 3.73 regardless of whether you get the brakes or not. Correctly there is no track pack there is an SVT performance package, but I think thats for the V6... I couldn't find a way to put it on either car though. The GT/CS does not allow you to get the brembo brakes at all even though the wheels that come with it are 19"... in fact none of the 19" wheels except the Dark Stainless ones can be ordered with the Brembo brakes (kinda retarded).

Either way the GT/CS is not the best competition for the SS Camaro, a GT with the 19 inch wheels/brembo brakes option would put it closer to or better in performance with the Summer tires and basically equivalent brakes. Throw in the 3.73 gears and I have a feeling the Camaro won't be ahead anymore...
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