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doing an honest assesment of this car - i still believe that they could have sold it for 65k range and made a profit. Which means they are making about 10k over and above because of what it is. Whether or not my numbers are right - the new GM is here to make profits on everything. If the Z/28 is selling like hot cakes - they will keep making them. They would be stupid not to |
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The Ford Mustang Laguna Seca's are already on the used market under MSRP, even though it was a limited run (1500) and $50k MSRP (many dealers marked them up significantly).
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in 2013 Chevy sold 1.9M cars/trucks
in 2009 (i couldnt find a 2013 camaro numbers) sold 62,000 Camaros So 3% of cars are Camaros It becomes .03% for just the 500 Z/28s And if 3000 for 2015 it will be .16% of total production. I am forgetting how CAFE is calculated now but i think the LS7 in the Camaro will be fine......for now Plus i didnt think the hammer fell until 2016 on new CAFE regulations |
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Because there are penalties if GM doesn't meet the Corporate Average Fuel Economy rules. Essentially this won't be much of an issue with the Z/28, since the number of units build will be tiny. GM builds a lot of Cruzes, etc., that offset the lower mileage, but the real issue are things like trucks and SUVs -- the huge number of units sold there make a big impact and are much harder to balance out...
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The Ford GT is an interesting case. They made a lot of them as far as limited production goes, over 4,000. And while the MSRP was $150k, very few sold for under $200k, some of them sold for over $250k.
Today, you can pick them up for $150-$250k based on latest Ebay SOLD prices. Hence, some people could have lost money on them. So even they aren't necessarily collectible. I would not be surprised if they go back under MSRP in the future due to the high production numbers. Very few modern cars ever become collectible.
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Though a lot have folks have speculated that most Z/28s will become garage queens, I disagree. I believe that it will be something closer to 75/25 -- 75% of owners will drive, use, and enjoy their Z/28s, while a quarter of owners will lock them away. How could you own one and resist the temptation to drive it?!?
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I would agree with the 75% 25%
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Sounds familiar If trucks and SUVs are counted then I can see why GM would want to keep a limit on LS7s. Trucks/SUVs are their bread and butter. Now if only they can sell more Volts |
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