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Old 04-14-2013, 03:13 PM   #12545
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Look at what GM started now:

"Last week GM turned a lot of heads with the surprise introduction of the 2014 Camaro Z/28, a lightweight, track-bred Camaro with a 500 horsepower LS7 engine. Muscle car enthusiasts all over the country are (for the most part) enamored with this new track-bred Camaro, though rival automakers are keen to keep this competitor in check.

This includes Chrysler, which according to Carscoops is working on a new version of the Dodge Challenger to rival the Camaro Z/28. But can the Challenger shed enough weight to be truly competitive?

If Dodge struck to the same script as Chevy, a Camaro Z/28 competitor would need to be a stripped down, de-contented Challenger that loses a lot of weight, gains a lot of power. For the Challenger, the heaviest of the three muscle car contenders at 4,371 pounds, getting under even two-tons would be a chore.

Then there is the fact that the Challenger SRT8 already has a 470 horsepower HEMI V8. To compete with the Z/28 would likely require forced induction and closer to 600 horsepower. Another option? THe Viper’s 8.4 liter V10 making 640 horsepower. But that would push the price way past the likely MSRP of the Z/28."
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:43 PM   #12546
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Look at what GM started now:

"Last week GM turned a lot of heads with the surprise introduction of the 2014 Camaro Z/28, a lightweight, track-bred Camaro with a 500 horsepower LS7 engine. Muscle car enthusiasts all over the country are (for the most part) enamored with this new track-bred Camaro, though rival automakers are keen to keep this competitor in check.

This includes Chrysler, which according to Carscoops is working on a new version of the Dodge Challenger to rival the Camaro Z/28. But can the Challenger shed enough weight to be truly competitive?

If Dodge struck to the same script as Chevy, a Camaro Z/28 competitor would need to be a stripped down, de-contented Challenger that loses a lot of weight, gains a lot of power. For the Challenger, the heaviest of the three muscle car contenders at 4,371 pounds, getting under even two-tons would be a chore.

Then there is the fact that the Challenger SRT8 already has a 470 horsepower HEMI V8. To compete with the Z/28 would likely require forced induction and closer to 600 horsepower. Another option? THe Viper’s 8.4 liter V10 making 640 horsepower. But that would push the price way past the likely MSRP of the Z/28."
There's a lot of what-ifs surrounding this Challenger.....I think it's bold and ambitious of them. And certainly Fiat/Chrysler has been putting out some good stuff recently....but I can't seem to wrap my head around the "how?"...
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Old 04-14-2013, 10:07 PM   #12547
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I think it's cool they are going to attempt to have a go at it. They have been doing their own thing for awhile now. Big 3 to go head to head for one last go???.........wowzers.....
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:27 AM   #12548
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:51 PM   #12549
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Sad day for sure. Big House of Z prayers to those that lost a loved one and those that were injured.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:55 PM   #12550
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It makes one so angry! A little 8 year old boy was killed.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:59 PM   #12551
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:27 AM   #12552
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:26 PM   #12553
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Old 04-16-2013, 02:30 PM   #12554
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Nice find! I think its the suspension flexing in the corner. That front is MUCH more aerodynamic looking.
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Who dat???? LOL <jesting>, BTW look at the ground clearance in the corner on that sucker...!!!!
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