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Sc0rPs · 07-12-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEDL1

My memory tells me that the engine is U.S.-made in Michigan, and that it's the transmission that's assembeled in Mexico.
In the end, the OP just needs his car to be made right again.

Good to note, but I was replying to SSManga's comment of where the car & engine was being made and he thought it was only the US that bailed GM out. I just had to let him know it wasn't just the US government.

I'm sure you can find parts made even in Japan if you really looked.

*mlee* · 07-12-2012, 12:44 AM

Sorry all this happended... but thanks for posting and keeping us informed.

Sounds like your dealership is taking care of you, but damn this is a lot to handle.

sspddmn · 07-12-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

I would also be very upset with the car and especially poor customer service like that when it comes to a brand new $60K vehicle. I commend the tech for trying but something major is clearly wrong here and should be addressed directly by Chevy and not just the dealer. I would contact a district manager and or someone with the power to help push for a new car. My experience tells me a lemon from day one is always a lemon.

I completely agree. i used work for a Chevy dealership many many years ago. and for a high end car like this you need to push for a MY13' replacement under the lemon law. GM wont just offer it to you. You are gonna have to keep pushing and fight for it. Trust me I have seen it work. GM will not give in lightly. And if you absolutely cant push anymore for a MY13' replacement, push for a complete drive train replacement. That will be your last resort and a compromise with GM. But it will work. I know its under warranty but the amount of money that is adding up for damages and labor on this will most likely be a lot and that will count towards your argument towards the lemon law. And as another last resort, if you must, all you have to do is consult with an attorney and once that gets moving GM will cave and either replace your entire car or the entire drive train cuz GM wont take the chance of giving you a free car if this were to go to litigation.

Sorry you are going through this. This really sucks. Good luck.

Scarrzz · 07-12-2012, 01:22 AM

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All those problems are no bueno.

I'm glad the service department seems to be doing all they can, but it is more than a little disconcerting to see so many issues on a new production ZL1.

Thanks for the post and please keep us informed as to your progress. I hope it's all straightened out to your satisfaction soon.

*mlee* · 07-12-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sspddmn

I completely agree. i used work for a Chevy dealership many many years ago. and for a high end car like this you need to push for a MY13' replacement under the lemon law. GM wont just offer it to you. You are gonna have to keep pushing and fight for it. Trust me I have seen it work. GM will not give in lightly. And if you absolutely cant push anymore for a MY13' replacement, push for a complete drive train replacement. That will be your last resort and a compromise with GM. But it will work. I know its under warranty but the amount of money that is adding up for damages and labor on this will most likely be a lot and that will count towards your argument towards the lemon law. And as another last resort, if you must, all you have to do is consult with an attorney and once that gets moving GM will cave and either replace your entire car or the entire drive train cuz GM wont take the chance of giving you a free car if this were to go to litigation.

Sorry you are going through this. This really sucks. Good luck.

He already said he wanted a 2012 not a 13...

8cd03gro · 07-12-2012, 02:15 AM

Raise hell. There are lemons in every brand new model and you got one. You should absolutely NOT have to deal with this inconvenience when purchasing a brand spanking new vehicle.

Brutal SS · 07-12-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeecamaro

Damn man, that sucks. I'd tell the dealership to keep that car and order you another.

pierre777 · 07-12-2012, 02:33 AM

+1

Blk-Ice · 07-12-2012, 02:56 AM

You must be a real patient and forgiving guy cause I would leave that car with keys at the dealership and make them give me a new one. There is no reason a new car should have all this ish wrong with it and them expecting u to keep it! The lemon law is there for a reason, use it dude. Hell they owe it to u for being this calm and patient about the whole thing!

Mister-Camaro · 07-12-2012, 03:22 AM

That sucks really badly

BrazenBeast · 07-12-2012, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEDL1

My memory tells me that the engine is U.S.-made in Michigan, and that it's the transmission that's assembeled in Mexico.
In the end, the OP just needs his car to be made right again.

Unless things have changed very recently this is not true. Camaro Ls3's are made in Canada. LS7 lS9 and dry sump LS3 for Grand Sport are made in Wixom, Michigan. CTSV and ZL1 LSA are made in Mexico. Someone from GM feel free to correct me if I have mistated anything.

DangerZL1 · 07-12-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BrazenBeast

Unless things have changed very recently this is not true. Camaro Ls3's are made in Canada. LS7 lS9 and dry sump LS3 for Grand Sport are made in Wixom, Michigan. CTSV and ZL1 LSA are made in Mexico. Someone from GM feel free to correct me if I have mistated anything.

Estás sir correcto

closs2sx · 07-12-2012, 06:36 AM

They can locate a 2012 and get it for you to replace yours if you want a 2012

ZL1 TIBS · 07-12-2012, 07:24 AM

As someone else on here already said, it is probably the rear main seal. The dealer tech is trying to rule out the easier stuff before he goes there since it is a more involved fix. Stay patient and I hope your Z gets back to 100% soon.

07-12-2012, 12:44 AM	#44
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,490 View My Garage	Sorry all this happended... but thanks for posting and keeping us informed. Sounds like your dealership is taking care of you, but damn this is a lot to handle. __________________

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Scarrzz No Fear-No Limits- Camaro Drives: '13 ZL1 or Suzuki Hayabusa Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana, CO, GA, TX, etc. Posts: 2,033 View My Garage	. All those problems are no bueno. I'm glad the service department seems to be doing all they can, but it is more than a little disconcerting to see so many issues on a new production ZL1. Thanks for the post and please keep us informed as to your progress. I hope it's all straightened out to your satisfaction soon. __________________ . __________________________________ ................................................The Faithful are Watching.

07-12-2012, 02:33 AM	#50
pierre777 HT5 COTW 9/3/2012 Drives: Cyber Bullet Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: lebanon Posts: 4,555 View My Garage	+1 __________________

07-12-2012, 02:56 AM	#51
Blk-Ice 750HP of Twisted Reaper! Drives: Blk 2SS/Blk Carb Fibr NS-1 stripes Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Northern VA & NC Posts: 2,244 View My Garage	You must be a real patient and forgiving guy cause I would leave that car with keys at the dealership and make them give me a new one. There is no reason a new car should have all this ish wrong with it and them expecting u to keep it! The lemon law is there for a reason, use it dude. Hell they owe it to u for being this calm and patient about the whole thing! __________________ *Fear the LMR Twisted Reaper Brotherhood!*

07-12-2012, 06:36 AM	#55
closs2sx Drives: 1970 chevelle Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,427	They can locate a 2012 and get it for you to replace yours if you want a 2012 __________________ On Order 2018 ZL1 1LE Garnet Red Tint Coat Metallic MY Car 2015 Z06 Z07 Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic Dads Car 2013 ZL1 vin 963 Crystal Red Tint Coat/Black Wheels Exposed Carbon Fiber Insert 6 Spd Manual

07-12-2012, 02:15 AM	#48
8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	Raise hell. There are lemons in every brand new model and you got one. You should absolutely NOT have to deal with this inconvenience when purchasing a brand spanking new vehicle.

07-12-2012, 03:22 AM	#52
Mister-Camaro Drives: 2011 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: California Posts: 567 View My Garage	That sucks really badly

07-12-2012, 07:24 AM	#56
ZL1 TIBS Drives: 1968 Camaro, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 398	As someone else on here already said, it is probably the rear main seal. The dealer tech is trying to rule out the easier stuff before he goes there since it is a more involved fix. Stay patient and I hope your Z gets back to 100% soon.