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DeeJay_Pico · 07-29-2008, 04:36 AM

Impossible!!! In Italy New Camaro @60000 Euro!!!
IS CRAZY!!!

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150256319498

I want buy this car, but in italy is impossible....!
Wen the car is out and for sale in USA i go to one dealer in USA buy and transport by by in italy...
If the car price is 25000 USD whit trasport+tax and other i pay only 30000 !!1

DeSoulja2185 · 07-29-2008, 04:52 AM

Wow.. another wonderful EBAY "SCAM"... If someone purchases it before it even hits the production line... just tell me how AWESOME it is to drive, and be seen in.... LMAO!

*Mindz* · 07-29-2008, 05:00 AM

DeeJay, you might want to wait until they're released and find a country that's selling them in Europe. eBay is probably the worst place to pick one up ESPECIALLY during the first year or so. People are going to try and jack the price up to make some cash. If I could buy a v8 for around $30,000 USD and sell it to someone for $60,000, it means that when I go to buy the camaro I want, I'll be able to get it for free since that's the profit I made from selling the first one.

1. Wait a while if your local car deealership is selling them,
2. try not to buy from someone that's obviously trying to make money by "selling their spot" so to speak

DeeJay_Pico · 07-29-2008, 05:55 AM

Hi boy, tanks for accortence!

I have called chevrolet Italy, and the car is not saled directly in Italy. but whit a external import dealer...
Wen i want buy, i go in the usa and buy, whit help on my friend (have a doble residence). Hes buy the car, trasport in italy and resell to me. In this metod, the tax, trasport and new plate cost me only 4000 USD (c.a. 2500 EUR)!!

Excuseme for my english, but i have only study by me...!

Dan · 07-29-2008, 08:07 AM

Yes but we do know that some of Europe (maybe only England) is getting the Camaro, so why transport it across the ocean if you don't have to.

Chevyrocker · 07-29-2008, 08:10 AM

First off, it's ILLEGAL to export new GM vehicles overseas. I go through this all the time with people wanting to buy Corvettes and Z06's and ship them to EU. And secondly, one of us needs to contact e-bay and have them remove anything that has to do with a 2010 Camaro because I'm sure that these people are doing something illegal as well.

The General does not like the idea of people being able to buy things cheap over here where the market is somewhat soft on domestic vehicles and then transport them to a place where the same vehicles sells for tweice the money right off the showroom floor.

ie. 2007 pre-owned Corvette coupe 3LT with say 4,000 miles
US value: $45,000
Romanian Value: $150,000 (roughly)

The only way to get the GM vehiles overseas is to:
a) Buy them USED
b) Title it in the states, pay taxes on it, keep it for 5 or 6 months, PAY IT OFF and then do what you will
or
c) Break the law and risk fines and jail time

As far as this e-bay guy, report him immediately so they cancel his account.

Emher · 07-29-2008, 09:34 AM

^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?

As for the pricing, DeeJay, I wouldn't worry just yet. The few ads I've seen for it at this point have it qouted at 560 000 Swedish Crownes. For comparison a brand new imported Mustang costs roughly 350 000 Swedish Crownes. That's ONE HELL of a difference. I think it's just price goughers who aim to squeeze out every penny of buyers while they can at the start of sales.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-29-2008, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emher

^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?

That's different. GM has extentions in other parts of the world. GM Canada, and GM Europe for example. They're all GM, but they operate seperate from the "Mother Company". They are authorized to sell cars throughout THEIR dealer networks. But because of exchange rates, etc...the prices are higher. So GM understandibly frowns on people from Europe importing a US-spec (and priced) vehicle...

camarorick · 07-29-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsenn

First off, it's ILLEGAL to export new GM vehicles overseas. I go through this all the time with people wanting to buy Corvettes and Z06's and ship them to EU. And secondly, one of us needs to contact e-bay and have them remove anything that has to do with a 2010 Camaro because I'm sure that these people are doing something illegal as well.

The General does not like the idea of people being able to buy things cheap over here where the market is somewhat soft on domestic vehicles and then transport them to a place where the same vehicles sells for tweice the money right off the showroom floor.

ie. 2007 pre-owned Corvette coupe 3LT with say 4,000 miles
US value: $45,000
Romanian Value: $150,000 (roughly)

The only way to get the GM vehiles overseas is to:
a) Buy them USED
b) Title it in the states, pay taxes on it, keep it for 5 or 6 months, PAY IT OFF and then do what you will
or
c) Break the law and risk fines and jail time

As far as this e-bay guy, report him immediately so they cancel his account.

The General should be ashamed of the price differences.... Why should the same product be 300% more expensive in another country ?

Please explain why it has to be titled, and remain in the states for 5 to 6 months ??

Hassena91 · 07-29-2008, 12:03 PM

Whaat ?
60k euro is nothing compared to Denmark, a dodge srt-8 which is around 40k in the US, is 180-200k dollars here wich is around 115k euros in Denmark it just crazy

btw we dont use Euro, we use Danish Krones

Captain Awesome · 07-29-2008, 11:14 PM

Whatever you call them, they sure sound like a tasty treat!

*radz28* · 07-29-2008, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Whatever you call them, they sure sound like a tasty treat!

Cap' You're friggin' crazy!

willisit · 07-30-2008, 04:42 AM

Um.. there are hundreds of companies here that import vehicles from the US brand new and most have no affiliation with GM/Ford etc - so I can't see it being illegal. It's only importing a car! Besides, we still have to pay all the relavant taxes/VAT etc so everyone gets their money.

*DGthe3* · 08-02-2008, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emher

^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)?

As for the pricing, DeeJay, I wouldn't worry just yet. The few ads I've seen for it at this point have it qouted at 560 000 Swedish Crownes. For comparison a brand new imported Mustang costs roughly 350 000 Swedish Crownes. That's ONE HELL of a difference. I think it's just price goughers who aim to squeeze out every penny of buyers while they can at the start of sales.

I can't buy a new car in the US. I don't know if Canadian dealers are allowed to sell to other countries. However, an American can buy a new car and I could buy it from them 'used', I think. I imagine this is how exporters work.

07-29-2008, 04:36 AM	#1
DeeJay_Pico AmericanCar Fan'! Drives: MazdaSpeed RX-8 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salerno - Italy Posts: 3	Impossible!!! In Italy New Camaro @60000 Euro!!! Impossible!!! In Italy New Camaro @60000 Euro!!! IS CRAZY!!! http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150256319498 I want buy this car, but in italy is impossible....! Wen the car is out and for sale in USA i go to one dealer in USA buy and transport by by in italy... If the car price is 25000 USD whit trasport+tax and other i pay only 30000 !!1

07-29-2008, 05:00 AM	#3
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	DeeJay, you might want to wait until they're released and find a country that's selling them in Europe. eBay is probably the worst place to pick one up ESPECIALLY during the first year or so. People are going to try and jack the price up to make some cash. If I could buy a v8 for around $30,000 USD and sell it to someone for $60,000, it means that when I go to buy the camaro I want, I'll be able to get it for free since that's the profit I made from selling the first one. 1. Wait a while if your local car deealership is selling them, 2. try not to buy from someone that's obviously trying to make money by "selling their spot" so to speak __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

07-29-2008, 09:34 AM	#7
Emher Pillaging Viking Drives: Saab 9-5 '99 (Hey it's a GM!) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,189	^But hold on then. Are you saying that the import firms that sell new imported vehicles are in fact breaking the law in organized form? Or are the laws different in Canada (I know for a fact that one firm takes in cars via Canada)? As for the pricing, DeeJay, I wouldn't worry just yet. The few ads I've seen for it at this point have it qouted at 560 000 Swedish Crownes. For comparison a brand new imported Mustang costs roughly 350 000 Swedish Crownes. That's ONE HELL of a difference. I think it's just price goughers who aim to squeeze out every penny of buyers while they can at the start of sales. __________________ "Fifty years from now, when you're looking back at your life, don't you want to be able to say you had the guts to get in the car?"

07-30-2008, 04:42 AM	#13
willisit Drives: Vauxhall Monaro VXR Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waterlooville, UK Posts: 314	Um.. there are hundreds of companies here that import vehicles from the US brand new and most have no affiliation with GM/Ford etc - so I can't see it being illegal. It's only importing a car! Besides, we still have to pay all the relavant taxes/VAT etc so everyone gets their money. __________________ Dan 2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR. Sport pac - Road Response Pac - Ripshifter 2005 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 Sport (ug) 2001 Honda CBR 600 F

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07-29-2008, 04:52 AM	#2
DeSoulja2185 The One, The Only Drives: 2006 Jaguar X-Type Join Date: May 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 16	Wow.. another wonderful EBAY "SCAM"... If someone purchases it before it even hits the production line... just tell me how AWESOME it is to drive, and be seen in.... LMAO!

07-29-2008, 05:55 AM	#4
DeeJay_Pico AmericanCar Fan'! Drives: MazdaSpeed RX-8 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Salerno - Italy Posts: 3	Hi boy, tanks for accortence! I have called chevrolet Italy, and the car is not saled directly in Italy. but whit a external import dealer... Wen i want buy, i go in the usa and buy, whit help on my friend (have a doble residence). Hes buy the car, trasport in italy and resell to me. In this metod, the tax, trasport and new plate cost me only 4000 USD (c.a. 2500 EUR)!! Excuseme for my english, but i have only study by me...!

07-29-2008, 08:07 AM	#5
Dan Drives: 2004 GTO Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 448	Yes but we do know that some of Europe (maybe only England) is getting the Camaro, so why transport it across the ocean if you don't have to.

07-29-2008, 08:10 AM	#6
Chevyrocker Weekend Rockstar Drives: Depends on the day... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 1,444	First off, it's ILLEGAL to export new GM vehicles overseas. I go through this all the time with people wanting to buy Corvettes and Z06's and ship them to EU. And secondly, one of us needs to contact e-bay and have them remove anything that has to do with a 2010 Camaro because I'm sure that these people are doing something illegal as well. The General does not like the idea of people being able to buy things cheap over here where the market is somewhat soft on domestic vehicles and then transport them to a place where the same vehicles sells for tweice the money right off the showroom floor. ie. 2007 pre-owned Corvette coupe 3LT with say 4,000 miles US value: $45,000 Romanian Value: $150,000 (roughly) The only way to get the GM vehiles overseas is to: a) Buy them USED b) Title it in the states, pay taxes on it, keep it for 5 or 6 months, PAY IT OFF and then do what you will or c) Break the law and risk fines and jail time As far as this e-bay guy, report him immediately so they cancel his account.

07-29-2008, 12:03 PM	#10
Hassena91 Drives: 1993 Vw Golf Mk.III xD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gøbenhavn. Denmark Posts: 23	Whaat ? 60k euro is nothing compared to Denmark, a dodge srt-8 which is around 40k in the US, is 180-200k dollars here wich is around 115k euros in Denmark it just crazy btw we dont use Euro, we use Danish Krones

07-29-2008, 11:14 PM	#11
Captain Awesome Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,746	Whatever you call them, they sure sound like a tasty treat!