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01-01-2013, 10:48 AM | #184 |
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I gotta give credit to the ZL1. Making an over 4000 pound car do what its dong takes alot. Will the ZL1 out handle the GT500?? I say yes, that it depends on the track and driver. The ZL1 will be more easy to drive but I dont think its going to kill a GT500 on every track or even beat the GT500 on every track. Throw more laps in there and I bet the ZL1 will heat soak MUCH faster than the GT500. But I still give the edge to the ZL1 on road courses.
Now the 1LE and Boss. Thats a whole different story. The 1LE beat the Boss time on a dry track on a different day with no traffic compared to the Boss's time on a damp track with traffic. Just sayn.......Also im not biased. I could care less if its a Ford Dodge or Chevy......Ive had all and alot of each!!!!
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I want is a matter of opinion, when you start to say that one thing is a better bang for your buck then another it is safer to have a qualifier. Such as the GT500 is the better bang for your buck car because its faster at the drag strip. That is an opinion, when you state that the GT500 is the better bang for your buck car because it is so much faster at the drag strip it comes off as a matter of fact. When in reality there are plenty of people who disagrees with you, also because these two cars excel at different things its possible that the GT500 is the better bang for your buck car then the ZL1 for you but the other way for other people. You also throw it out there that suddenly people have become track fans because it is is what ZL1 and 1LE is really good at. I can give a counter argument that people are increasingly enjoying road racing and that those who like drag racing may even be down. This would also have the desired result of turning drag strip people into road racing people. You also have to understand that the gen 4 Camaro's while not the worst handling cars in the world this isn't something that it excelled at. Its like a kid who gets a new toy and starts to play with it, they find out that this toy can also do X, Y, and Z and now have more interest in it because of it. With that said, my uncle loved drag racing and when he was younger had a 1969 SS 396 Camaro which ran a best time of 12.10 at the drag strip. He passed this love for drag racing on to his son, I have had no interest at all in drag racing. If you think I need historical context for why I like Camaro's then look at the old Z28 Camaro's and their performance in Trans Am racing something with lots of turns. As far as others "jumping" onto the road racing band wagon that you have insinuated I can not speak for others. though is it possible that those people talk drag racing in drag racing threads and road racing in road racing threads and that they actually liked both all along?. |
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I was simply expressing my opinion I thought this was anerica
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The GT500 is a U.S. Heavyweight Champion boxer, and the ZL1 is a International Heavyweight MMA rookie.
The Boxer is the undisputed "king of the hill" of an antiquated breed; The stand up and duke it out, blow for blow brute, who either excels at pummeling opponents in legitimate sanctioned matches or illegally busting noses and jaws on the street. The MMA fighter is the shockingly effective rookie who has surprised everyone by either upsetting the reigning champions or at least eliminating any measurable dominance they may have had in multiple disciplines. The GT500 is the undisputed king of the dragstrip for a factory car under $65,000 and has been so for many years. It is also respectfully competitive on a road course. As a grand tourer it is rationalized as an acceptable option even though it is still measurably inferior to other competitors in that regard. But don't tell it that cause it will eagerly try to prove that every road is a dragstrip. The ZL1 available in fully competitive form for under $60,000, is the multi-disciplined young international rookie of the year. In its first year it has either upset the champions or virtually eliminated their measurable dominance in whatever contest it has entered. It's been compared to and even out raced Audi's RSs, BMW's Ms, Mercedes' AMGs and Porsche's 911s. It has even called into question the dominance of Ferraris, Jaguars, Nissan's GTR and the rediculously over valued Lexus LFA. Both Ferrari and Audi are paying undoubtedly huge somes of money to borrow its technology (MRC). All the while, being a very respectable grand tourer and daily driver with room for 4 and some cargo. Oh and on a dark and lonely street, it doesn't care about of a few tenth's or a few pounds disadvantage to the old local brute who feels the need to prove something to itself that it can't seem to prove anywhere else but on a lonely street or a dragstrip. That it's still the king...of an antiquated breed.
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Didnt the GT500 beat the ZL1 around a road course a few months ago??? I gotta go find that pic......
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I don't trust magazines as the final word. Their business is to sell magazines first I ask with hardcopy publications is do both manufacturers pay for advertisement in those magazines? As far as the numbers, the Mustang will of course win a drag race. I don't drag race, low ET low IQ as they say. I bet you a paycheck that the road race track times are driver related. I still like the Mustangs and I owned one but they still drive terribly in the rain because of that damn live axle from the sixties. |
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