03-28-2013, 07:51 AM | #15 |
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GM stated that they don't anticipate selling many, and I quote "Alan Batey, General Motors' U.S. sales chief, said the company doesn't expect to sell a lot of Z/28s, but the car does bring back some of the brand's heritage from days when it dominated U.S. roads. You don't do this because of how many you're going to sell. You do this because of the statement it can make and the way it can build the brand," he said.
If it was cheap(er), everyone would have one.
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03-28-2013, 08:19 AM | #17 |
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Simply put, the car should have started its life as an option only car as it was then. If you want carbon ceramic brakes, fine pay for it..if you don't want onstar, radio, a/c, power this and that, awesome! Standard engine could have been the LS7(or my humble opinion it's own engine) fine, no RS package avail, etc. Just starting it at less is more is just plain silly. These are basically COPO cars that are street legal.
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03-28-2013, 08:20 AM | #18 |
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Somewhere on this site.... yesterday I looked on tapatalk and it was stated by Fbodfather that with CAFE standards... the high performance big motors cars are gonna come with a premuim. Thats out of the hands of GM unless they ditch the HP to make it affordable to everyone.... but who wants a 240 hp turbo 4 cyl Camaro?
It was also stated in that same post, that if people are looking for that high performance car that can race and streetable.... then buy the ZL-1.. The Z28 is built for the track and is not the practical daily car. I can't put quotation marks on it because I don't remember the exact wording but it was very similar to that.
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03-28-2013, 08:41 AM | #19 |
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Try pricing an LS7 crate motor and drop it into your SS or 1LE...and be prepared for sticker shock...lol...
Believe it or not, it is actually more expensive and time-consuming to delete items off the assembly line, than to just include them...Different times, different mind-set these days... I would love to see engine options in less expensive models, but it's not gonna happen at the factory...I say give it a few years, get a cheap used SS, strip it down, put in an LS7...then you'll have a more streetable car "similar" to the Z/28... I think it's a miracle they even built a car like this in today's world, but hang on...perhaps "demand" just might get us an LS7 in an SS before it's all over... Nothing can come close to the true factory Z/28 they built, but we may see the benefits of it somehow in other models... |
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Yeah and believe it or not, an LS7 option in a 2SS/1LE will be a hell of a lot cheaper than the Z/28 and will track pretty damn close to the same. I would venture to guess there would be less than a second difference. I still don't get that the engine and brakes are the biggest performers of this car, not the weight difference and you can add an awesome comparable brake package for less than 3k.
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03-28-2013, 08:54 AM | #21 |
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I think all this "track" business, and what it takes to really do it, is pretty much pipe-dream and out of reach for most of us financially...Look how they debuted the Z/28 and the rest of the Performance line-up...I think they were serious this time...lol, and it's not just a track it if you want to, but mostly drive on the street type of car like all the other models...
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03-28-2013, 09:01 AM | #22 | |
Z/28 to be the most expensive camaro offered
"GM did not announce pricing, but Reuss said it will be the most expensive Camaro offered. The Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 the brands current most expensive Camaro -- starts at about $55,000"
http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/..._river_default
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03-28-2013, 09:18 AM | #23 |
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That's definitely a bummer - but the hand-built LS7 isn't cheap, nor is the suspension. I was reading another article on GMAuthority.com that said the suspension on the Z28 is only offered on one other production car... an Aston Martin with a starting MSRP of $1.5 million...
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With the LS7, forged wheels, carbon ceramic brakes, Recaro seats, and some of the other unique tweaks of course it will be. All of those things are $$$.
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Any guesses?
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It cost a stupid amount of money to bring another car to the line up. The car might share same the same sheet metal however there is alot more there. Glass, brakes, tires, rims, front spoiler, rear spoiler the list goes on. look at the fender flares. You just can't slap those on. Between the motor and brakes there's 20-25K alone. And you have to make sure it all can take a beating.
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03-28-2013, 09:25 AM | #27 |
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A simple addition exercise of adding up the incremental costs of the known improvements over an SS with the 1LE package ....... like the LS7, dry sump, brakes, seats, tires, etc will have this car easily running $60k or more. That's my guess anyway.
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Truly takes the wind outta my sails...LS7 was the dream come true but not at the price some are speculating...surprised GM would price this Camaro beyond the reach of most targeted buyers.
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