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Fiftydriver · 04-30-2012, 01:21 PM

Just read about Jamies 9 sec time with his maggie/JRE powered L99. Made me start to think. Many say the Maggie can not support this level of performance for sub 10 second time slips.

Just made wonder, what is the fastest Gen V maggie powered car? I would think Jamie's would be in the running!!!

Congrats guys.

600hp-lpe · 04-30-2012, 01:32 PM

paul2010 went 9.42 over 2 years ago at the LSX shootout....

Supercharged SS · 04-30-2012, 01:54 PM

Paul went 9.84 with a Maggie on a 427 and I think he was on drag radials. He should shatter that the next time out.

For comparisons sake I'm on the stock cubes with the stock L99 heads.

blackonblacksls · 04-30-2012, 02:21 PM

The blower spins at a fixed speed. So regardless of head flow and motor size the blower still moves similar amounts of air. Heads and displacement probably dont make much of a difference in performance for a given blower speed.

Just see different boost levels. Which doesn't matter f your running race gas anyways.

Supercharged SS · 04-30-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls

The blower spins at a fixed speed. So regardless of head flow and motor size the blower still moves similar amounts of air. Heads and displacement probably dont make much of a difference in performance for a given blower speed.

Just see different boost levels. Which doesn't matter f your running race gas anyways.

I don't think this is entirely true. Then why would anyone stroke the engine. A 427 prob makes 50-60 more HP than a 376. I may be mistaken but I was told it 1-1.5 HP for every cubic inch. Heads on a blower car, add another 25-30 HP. So given the same blower speed that's about an extra 100 HP.

JLE58 · 04-30-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls

The blower spins at a fixed speed. So regardless of head flow and motor size the blower still moves similar amounts of air. Heads and displacement probably dont make much of a difference in performance for a given blower speed.

Just see different boost levels. Which doesn't matter f your running race gas anyways.

Really? Where did you learn this...

grocerygetter · 04-30-2012, 04:37 PM

yeah...blackonblacksls...I don't think you understand that just quite right...or maybe just confused a tad. Motor cubes make a difference because you are adding that to cfm of the blower...essentially the blower adds 'displacement' shall we say in itself. Heads get dropped in the efficiency category...like headers...you factor in boost and octane and make benefit or not of the heads,intake, headers...it can all net better power.
this is my understanding only...not gospel. tell me if I'm wrong...I'll listen.

jrpxxii · 04-30-2012, 04:44 PM

Adding cubes definitely affects a blower just the same as if you put on headers you will lose boost. When I had my LSX427 with the F1R blower installed there was too much motor for the blower and it wouldnt produce more than 19lbs of boost as it was turning at max rpm.

Hendrix-Engineering · 04-30-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Adding cubes definitely affects a blower just the same as if you put on headers you will lose boost. When I had my LSX427 with the F1R blower installed there was too much motor for the blower and it wouldnt produce more than 19lbs of boost as it was turning at max rpm.

Im not sure what you have going on,and im not saying your wrong and im right but we have alot different results.You have commented alot about the fact the 2300 maggie you had was out of blower at 730hp or so but yet weve made 125hp more than that ,which is a pretty big difference and your stating you only got 19lbs of boost with a f1r on a 427 and it didnt work for you and we made over 1050rwhp through a 4l80 using a f1r making 23lbs of boost and seting a record 8.95@154. I would be curious on your cr that you use

JLE58 · 04-30-2012, 05:02 PM

I known someone that made 25+lbs recently with a rhs 427 solid roller cam car with a f1r and well well over 1k hp through a power glide

blackonblacksls · 04-30-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

I don't think this is entirely true. Then why would anyone stroke the engine. A 427 prob makes 50-60 more HP than a 376. I may be mistaken but I was told it 1-1.5 HP for every cubic inch. Heads on a blower car, add another 25-30 HP. So given the same blower speed that's about an extra 100 HP.

your not going to gain 100rwhp at the exact same blower speed..

IM right about this.

old motorhead · 04-30-2012, 05:40 PM

Using the same blower speed. Yes, the bigger motor will have less boost. More air is getting through the motor though. More air = more hp. Same with good cylinder heads. Same blower speed yields less boost, but more power. You can stick a cork in your exhaust. Boost will go up....power down.

blackonblacksls · 04-30-2012, 05:43 PM

whats the max power people are doing with the 2.9 whipples and 2.3 tvs blowers? most likely its around 800rwhp through a stick?

just to put my concept into perspective, guys in the ford side of things are making 800+rwhp with both of these blowers with heads that flow less, cams that are smaller, and motors that are only 4.6 or max 5.4 liters...

so just to get my point across, the type of motor doesn't even matter, if a blower only supports 800rwhp turned all the way up, then that is it.. Displacement, head flow, all that crap doesn't really make much of a difference..

blackonblacksls · 04-30-2012, 05:44 PM

its not a hard concept to grasp guys.. And these are motors that built with the best shit only make 350rwhp or so setup for boost. So even though a built ls3 makes probably 150rwhp on motor, with the same blower connected, they both max out at around 800rwhp?

do you guys get it yet?

04-30-2012, 01:21 PM	#1
Fiftydriver Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS RJT L99 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fort Shaw, Montana Posts: 1,242	Whats the fastest Maggie powered 1/4 mile time? Just read about Jamies 9 sec time with his maggie/JRE powered L99. Made me start to think. Many say the Maggie can not support this level of performance for sub 10 second time slips. Just made wonder, what is the fastest Gen V maggie powered car? I would think Jamie's would be in the running!!! Congrats guys. __________________ Fiftydriver 2010 SSRS, RJTC, L99, Maggie 2300 SC, 3.4" pulley, Roto-Fab CAI, Dynatech Supermaxx LT headers, Dynatech High Flow cats, Corsa Cat back exhaust, Dual Elite Engineering catch can, MSD wires and Jannetty custom tune, JRE custom diff w/ posi mod, 3.91 LPE gears, Pfaht trailing arms, Pfaht trailing arm and Diff bushings, drop springs and sport sway bars front and back, Fesler dual guage pillar pod w/ AM Cobalt Boost and A/F guages. More to come!!

04-30-2012, 04:37 PM	#7
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	yeah...blackonblacksls...I don't think you understand that just quite right...or maybe just confused a tad. Motor cubes make a difference because you are adding that to cfm of the blower...essentially the blower adds 'displacement' shall we say in itself. Heads get dropped in the efficiency category...like headers...you factor in boost and octane and make benefit or not of the heads,intake, headers...it can all net better power. this is my understanding only...not gospel. tell me if I'm wrong...I'll listen. __________________ -John S.

04-30-2012, 04:44 PM	#8
jrpxxii Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS 427ci Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bowling Green, Ky Posts: 3,355	Adding cubes definitely affects a blower just the same as if you put on headers you will lose boost. When I had my LSX427 with the F1R blower installed there was too much motor for the blower and it wouldnt produce more than 19lbs of boost as it was turning at max rpm. __________________

04-30-2012, 01:32 PM	#2
600hp-lpe Drives: 2010 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NH Posts: 4,788	paul2010 went 9.42 over 2 years ago at the LSX shootout....

04-30-2012, 01:54 PM	#3
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	Paul went 9.84 with a Maggie on a 427 and I think he was on drag radials. He should shatter that the next time out. For comparisons sake I'm on the stock cubes with the stock L99 heads.

04-30-2012, 02:21 PM	#4
blackonblacksls Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: houston Posts: 531	The blower spins at a fixed speed. So regardless of head flow and motor size the blower still moves similar amounts of air. Heads and displacement probably dont make much of a difference in performance for a given blower speed. Just see different boost levels. Which doesn't matter f your running race gas anyways.

04-30-2012, 05:02 PM	#10
JLE58 Drives: CGM,twin turbo, cam 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ROCKMART, GA Posts: 2,185	I known someone that made 25+lbs recently with a rhs 427 solid roller cam car with a f1r and well well over 1k hp through a power glide

04-30-2012, 05:40 PM	#12
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	Using the same blower speed. Yes, the bigger motor will have less boost. More air is getting through the motor though. More air = more hp. Same with good cylinder heads. Same blower speed yields less boost, but more power. You can stick a cork in your exhaust. Boost will go up....power down.

04-30-2012, 05:43 PM	#13
blackonblacksls Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: houston Posts: 531	whats the max power people are doing with the 2.9 whipples and 2.3 tvs blowers? most likely its around 800rwhp through a stick? just to put my concept into perspective, guys in the ford side of things are making 800+rwhp with both of these blowers with heads that flow less, cams that are smaller, and motors that are only 4.6 or max 5.4 liters... so just to get my point across, the type of motor doesn't even matter, if a blower only supports 800rwhp turned all the way up, then that is it.. Displacement, head flow, all that crap doesn't really make much of a difference..

04-30-2012, 05:44 PM	#14
blackonblacksls Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: houston Posts: 531	its not a hard concept to grasp guys.. And these are motors that built with the best shit only make 350rwhp or so setup for boost. So even though a built ls3 makes probably 150rwhp on motor, with the same blower connected, they both max out at around 800rwhp? do you guys get it yet?