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Z Madness · 10-23-2010, 03:09 PM

20X9.5 and 20X11. 275's up front and 315's out back. Perfect fit as Forgelines had the perfect offset for the Camaros. Just a bit expensive.

And I also have a WRX. This one came with a Turbo. I 'm really getting into turbo'd cars.

scrming · 10-23-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

20X9.5 and 20X11. 275's up front and 315's out back. Perfect fit as Forgelines had the perfect offset for the Camaros. Just a bit expensive.

And I also have a WRX. This one came with a Turbo. I 'm really getting into turbo'd cars.

Scott at MRT has turbo-charged a whole fleet of SEMA cars... Mustangs (both V8 and V6 with a twin setup), Edge, Fusion, Focus, Lincoln MKZ... and after having driven then, well, I'm going to hold out for a turbo on this car!!! LOL

Z Madness · 10-23-2010, 07:22 PM

But no Camaro? Well, our friends at Unrestricted Motorsports will be showing their V6 STS Turbo Camaro at SEMA this year. I'm looking forward to attending this year's SEMA. Hopefully get some news about the Z-28.

STS can do a twin if you want, but of course will cost a bit more than the single. Have you been able to get a test ride in Rich's car? You guys have to get out before the track closes. Just watch those deers.

VR Baron · 10-23-2010, 09:29 PM

I was thinking a turbo one day when they get the system all ironed out, but has to be legal here in Cali. Or I can always move!

scrming · 10-23-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

But no Camaro? Well, our friends at Unrestricted Motorsports will be showing their V6 STS Turbo Camaro at SEMA this year. I'm looking forward to attending this year's SEMA. Hopefully get some news about the Z-28.

STS can do a twin if you want, but of course will cost a bit more than the single. Have you been able to get a test ride in Rich's car? You guys have to get out before the track closes. Just watch those deers.

SEMA.... stop by the MRT display and say hello to Scott! LOL

We have one track that is open here until the end of November, weather permitting... So going to do my best to get Rich out there! LOL

MichaelH · 10-23-2010, 11:43 PM

do they make the twin yet? i thought they were still in the works on that one

Z Madness · 10-24-2010, 02:16 AM

STS decided not to produce a twin for the V-6 but they did do one which was on display at last years SEMA. The car is owned by the guy that owns DSO Eyewear. Supposedly the car has be all over the place to promote their company. However, I don't think its at auto shows. And I don' think the guy is a car junky so no tracking. Check out the DSO website, there is a picture of the Camaro where you can see the twins in the rear and the V-6 motor up front. I think he won for best interior at SEMA that year.

STS decided to sell the single for the V-6 and the Twin for the V-8. I believe its more cost vs. power as I don't think the twins did anything for the power. Right now the limitation on the car is not the Turbo itself but the tuning to take the higher amounts of boost. I don't think it makes sense to run twins at 5 psi total. Also, they run single for many applications like the LS-1 which I have heard puts down some serious power on just the single. I am sure they would sell you one but it will be much more than the $5,995 price of the single.

MichaelH · 10-24-2010, 10:56 AM

o ok thank you for the info on this but do you know if they will make one if they ever figure out how to push the boost past 5 psi w/o problems

Z Madness · 10-25-2010, 01:28 AM

Probably not for the v-6. Not too many people buying the single kit as is, don't think it would be worth it to offer twin but you should ask STS directly. They should be able to easily do the twin since the set-up is very similar to the v-8. They said the boost is slower with the twin.

Dyk-NO · 10-25-2010, 02:32 AM

I was just wondering if you can buy the kit without the turbo instead buy a bigger aftermarket turbo? just wondering. . .. .

rhd · 10-25-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

Probably not for the v-6. Not too many people buying the single kit as is, don't think it would be worth it to offer twin but you should ask STS directly. They should be able to easily do the twin since the set-up is very similar to the v-8. They said the boost is slower with the twin.

the boost is slower with twins? any idea why?

Team STILLEN · 10-25-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

They said the boost is slower with the twin.

A turbocharger is driven by exhaust gas. It takes a certain amount of exhaust energy to drive the exhaust wheel. If you split the total exhaust over two turbochargers, they will be a little less efficient than a single turbo of an equivalent size.

How fast a car comes up on boost has everything to do with the size of the turbocharger wheels. The power a turbocharger, and by design, the engine makes is dependent on the size of turbocharger.

Bigger turbochargers make more power.

Smaller turbochargers make less power.

The smaller turbo will come up faster than a bigger turbo. The more displacement and exhaust energy you have, the quicker the turbo will come up.

Pick a turbocharger by the power you want to make. Build everything else around that. If you want to make 400 hp, the turbocharger will be much smaller than a turbocharger that will support 1000 hp.

Z Madness · 10-25-2010, 05:54 PM

What he said.

Thanks Sean.

Essentially, if you are only going to run 400 rwhp or so on the V-6, the single works great. The twins for the V-6 would be more for the "wow" factor. If you're looking for power across the band, I would say the single is the way to go.

Of course, everwhere I go its "wow, you got a turbo?". Cool, is it TWINS?, Oh. Still cool but not twins. (although as a man, I can appreaciate a nice pair.....of turbos.)

I don't think I've ever NOT been asked that question. Turbo guys usually say yeah, with the v6 doesn't make sense. But for the WOW factor, you would want to get the TWINS.

Not sure if STS will sell you the kit without the turbo but you could ask. You can buy a different size turbo from them if you like as well.

MichaelH · 10-25-2010, 09:33 PM

hmm i nvr knew that twins made it slower to spool but i hope they figure this turbo situation out b/c im waiting for all the kinks to be made out or for a supercharger if that produces alot of power

10-23-2010, 11:43 PM	#496
MichaelH SOCAL HT5 Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,495 View My Garage	do they make the twin yet? i thought they were still in the works on that one __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works Old vehicles 2010 CGM Camaro (sold) Other Vehicles: 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer 2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras

10-24-2010, 10:56 AM	#498
MichaelH SOCAL HT5 Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,495 View My Garage	o ok thank you for the info on this but do you know if they will make one if they ever figure out how to push the boost past 5 psi w/o problems __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works Old vehicles 2010 CGM Camaro (sold) Other Vehicles: 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer 2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras

10-25-2010, 02:32 AM	#500
Dyk-NO Trust me I'm a Scientist. Drives: My wifey ;P Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,118 View My Garage	I was just wondering if you can buy the kit without the turbo instead buy a bigger aftermarket turbo? just wondering. . .. . __________________ "From ZERO to a Tire-Burning HERO!" Mods: RotoFab CAI, SW Headers, HiFlo Cats, Borla Atak Catback, Nightfury Cam, Ported Heads,Intake,TB, melling pump, Morosso Oil Separator.

10-25-2010, 09:33 PM	#504
MichaelH SOCAL HT5 Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,495 View My Garage	hmm i nvr knew that twins made it slower to spool but i hope they figure this turbo situation out b/c im waiting for all the kinks to be made out or for a supercharger if that produces alot of power __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works Old vehicles 2010 CGM Camaro (sold) Other Vehicles: 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer 2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras

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Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	20X9.5 and 20X11. 275's up front and 315's out back. Perfect fit as Forgelines had the perfect offset for the Camaros. Just a bit expensive. And I also have a WRX. This one came with a Turbo. I 'm really getting into turbo'd cars.

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Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	But no Camaro? Well, our friends at Unrestricted Motorsports will be showing their V6 STS Turbo Camaro at SEMA this year. I'm looking forward to attending this year's SEMA. Hopefully get some news about the Z-28. STS can do a twin if you want, but of course will cost a bit more than the single. Have you been able to get a test ride in Rich's car? You guys have to get out before the track closes. Just watch those deers.

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10-24-2010, 02:16 AM	#497
Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	STS decided not to produce a twin for the V-6 but they did do one which was on display at last years SEMA. The car is owned by the guy that owns DSO Eyewear. Supposedly the car has be all over the place to promote their company. However, I don't think its at auto shows. And I don' think the guy is a car junky so no tracking. Check out the DSO website, there is a picture of the Camaro where you can see the twins in the rear and the V-6 motor up front. I think he won for best interior at SEMA that year. STS decided to sell the single for the V-6 and the Twin for the V-8. I believe its more cost vs. power as I don't think the twins did anything for the power. Right now the limitation on the car is not the Turbo itself but the tuning to take the higher amounts of boost. I don't think it makes sense to run twins at 5 psi total. Also, they run single for many applications like the LS-1 which I have heard puts down some serious power on just the single. I am sure they would sell you one but it will be much more than the $5,995 price of the single.

10-25-2010, 01:28 AM	#499
Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	Probably not for the v-6. Not too many people buying the single kit as is, don't think it would be worth it to offer twin but you should ask STS directly. They should be able to easily do the twin since the set-up is very similar to the v-8. They said the boost is slower with the twin.

10-25-2010, 05:54 PM	#503
Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	What he said. Thanks Sean. Essentially, if you are only going to run 400 rwhp or so on the V-6, the single works great. The twins for the V-6 would be more for the "wow" factor. If you're looking for power across the band, I would say the single is the way to go. Of course, everwhere I go its "wow, you got a turbo?". Cool, is it TWINS?, Oh. Still cool but not twins. (although as a man, I can appreaciate a nice pair.....of turbos.) I don't think I've ever NOT been asked that question. Turbo guys usually say yeah, with the v6 doesn't make sense. But for the WOW factor, you would want to get the TWINS. Not sure if STS will sell you the kit without the turbo but you could ask. You can buy a different size turbo from them if you like as well.