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Maurdib · 07-19-2010, 12:35 PM

Wouldn't you think they would be advertising like crazy, that they have finished their product, start shipping, and showing performance numbers for ther TC? Am I missing something

Z Madness · 07-19-2010, 04:38 PM

I agree. I hope I can deliver what everyone is expecting. Not sure what will happen if my kit falls short of 400 rwhp.

It should be noted that STS sells kits for a lot of different applications and are selling the twins for our SS brothers. From what I gather, they are doing well selling what they already have and don't necessarily go out and advertise for each new application that they make. Seems their real following is in Corvette and Truck applications. STS seems to be one of those companies that people either hate them or love them. They don't go out of there way to try to convince anyone otherwise.

I assume everyone wants to see the results are repeatable. I think the whole AACS fiasco with the 15 sec. time slips is causing most of the hesitation with the kit. Clearly the kit fits, now its just confirming how much performance gets added?

I will say the V6-ers are a much tougher crowd. Hopefully I'll get some clarity this week!

Maurdib · 07-19-2010, 04:48 PM

We are just lucky to have you Z as STS should be doing most of the talking now one would think

esperman · 07-19-2010, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Z Madness

I agree. I hope I can deliver what everyone is expecting. Not sure what will happen if my kit falls short of 400 rwhp.

I'm eager to see some dynos. I'm expecting to see in the neighborhood of 350rwhp. If I'm being too conservative, it will be a nice surprise!

*The_Blur* · 07-19-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

We are just lucky to have you Z as STS should be doing most of the talking now one would think

As someone who has a sales and customer service background, I'm very disappointed that STS hasn't been pointing to your car as a member who has installed their kit and is very happy with it. I almost feel like they expect you to sell their kit for them.

We are, however, very fortunate to have STS working on our cars. So far, their builds have a good reputation. I'd rather have engineers build me a turbo kit than salespeople, so I can forgive their lack of salesmanship.

Z Madness · 07-20-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by esperman

I'm eager to see some dynos. I'm expecting to see in the neighborhood of 350rwhp. If I'm being too conservative, it will be a nice surprise!

Agree. I'm thinking 350-375 and I will be happy. Still waiting on the meth kit which I hope takes me to the 400 mark. That would be cool.

Abygale · 07-20-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

As someone who has a sales and customer service background, I'm very disappointed that STS hasn't been pointing to your car as a member who has installed their kit and is very happy with it. I almost feel like they expect you to sell their kit for them.

We are, however, very fortunate to have STS working on our cars. So far, their builds have a good reputation. I'd rather have engineers build me a turbo kit than salespeople, so I can forgive their lack of salesmanship.

I agree. When I talked to Andrew at STS a few weeks ago, I got the impression like Z did, they are content with their level of business and will let word of mouth do the promoting. Frankly, I'd rather deal with a company that does that, than one that promotes a product that they don't have complete and have no idea when they will have it done.

Apparently, they have had one of these kits installed in a local car since January of this year and it sounded like it was a daily driver with no issues whatsoever. Not sure if Vince was working on the tune that far back but makes you wonder.

Maurdib · 07-20-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Abygale

I agree. When I talked to Andrew at STS a few weeks ago, I got the impression like Z did, they are content with their level of business and will let word of mouth do the promoting. Frankly, I'd rather deal with a company that does that, than one that promotes a product that they don't have complete and have no idea when they will have it done.

Apparently, they have had one of these kits installed in a local car since January of this year and it sounded like it was a daily driver with no issues whatsoever. Not sure if Vince was working on the tune that far back but makes you wonder.

They should give us all the numbers for that car and let it be what it is. Then we will decide if we want to do it.

OKCwhiteKnight · 07-20-2010, 11:42 AM

Rather have real world results (z) than pr from sts. Maybe sts will put z's testimonial on their site when z is done and satisfied.

Maurdib · 07-20-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OKCwhiteKnight

Rather have real world results (z) than pr from sts. Maybe sts will put z's testimonial on their site when z is done and satisfied.

I don't fully agree with that, I mean if Henn or Ling give us numbers and a dyno we would beleive them, isn't STS held in pretty high regard as well?

OKCwhiteKnight · 07-20-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

I don't fully agree with that, I mean if Henn or Ling give us numbers and a dyno we would beleive them, isn't STS held in pretty high regard as well?

Haven't they already put #'s out there. Time for some street, strip #'s & opinions from a customer.burnouts and dyno sheets are a good start, but we want more.The positive and negative.

Abygale · 07-20-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OKCwhiteKnight

Rather have real world results (z) than pr from sts. Maybe sts will put z's testimonial on their site when z is done and satisfied.

^^
this

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Originally Posted by OKCwhiteKnight

Haven't they already put #'s out there. Time for some street, strip #'s & opinions from a customer.burnouts and dyno sheets are a good start, but we want more.The positive and negative.

^^
and this!

Too much hype and BS in the past from some of these places. I want to see how the kit functions in the real world, not on some sales video or dyno report.

devildoc · 07-20-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Abygale

I agree. When I talked to Andrew at STS a few weeks ago, I got the impression like Z did, they are content with their level of business and will let word of mouth do the promoting. Frankly, I'd rather deal with a company that does that, than one that promotes a product that they don't have complete and have no idea when they will have it done.

Apparently, they have had one of these kits installed in a local car since January of this year and it sounded like it was a daily driver with no issues whatsoever. Not sure if Vince was working on the tune that far back but makes you wonder.

Aby - I remember talking to Vince at least in that time frame about turbo's and he has been the only one working on it.

CAMAR0 · 07-20-2010, 08:44 PM

I sorta remember someone saying that Vince did the tuning on that custom twin turbo. It was tuned by him around Feb-April time frame.
I stand corrected

07-19-2010, 12:35 PM	#1
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Why are we waiting on Z, Where's STS? Wouldn't you think they would be advertising like crazy, that they have finished their product, start shipping, and showing performance numbers for ther TC? Am I missing something __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

07-19-2010, 04:48 PM	#3
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	We are just lucky to have you Z as STS should be doing most of the talking now one would think __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

07-20-2010, 11:42 AM	#9
OKCwhiteKnight Drives: 2010 2LT RS Camaro 2015 Colorado Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 725	Rather have real world results (z) than pr from sts. Maybe sts will put z's testimonial on their site when z is done and satisfied. __________________

07-20-2010, 08:44 PM	#14
CAMAR0 Loose is Fast! Drives: Mikes Hard Lemons Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brick House Posts: 645	I sorta remember someone saying that Vince did the tuning on that custom twin turbo. It was tuned by him around Feb-April time frame. I stand corrected Last edited by CAMAR0; 07-21-2010 at 05:49 AM. Reason: Correction

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07-19-2010, 04:38 PM	#2
Z Madness Drives: 2010, 2000, 1971 Camaros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hawaii Posts: 535	I agree. I hope I can deliver what everyone is expecting. Not sure what will happen if my kit falls short of 400 rwhp. It should be noted that STS sells kits for a lot of different applications and are selling the twins for our SS brothers. From what I gather, they are doing well selling what they already have and don't necessarily go out and advertise for each new application that they make. Seems their real following is in Corvette and Truck applications. STS seems to be one of those companies that people either hate them or love them. They don't go out of there way to try to convince anyone otherwise. I assume everyone wants to see the results are repeatable. I think the whole AACS fiasco with the 15 sec. time slips is causing most of the hesitation with the kit. Clearly the kit fits, now its just confirming how much performance gets added? I will say the V6-ers are a much tougher crowd. Hopefully I'll get some clarity this week!