03-27-2012, 08:19 PM | #1 |
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Problems Getting MBS Headers to Fit Properly
Whats up everyone,
I have a 2010 SS L99 that I am in the process of upgrading. I recently purchased some MBS long tubes and installed them. Ted hooked me up with a tune and I thought things were good to go. I "dinged" them as many on here have done to help them fit properly. I have taken them off 4 times and re-dinged them in an attempt to prevent the steering shaft from rubbing. I noticed that there is still a slight rub especially while making a right turn. I do not want to over dent them. I am sure many would say to scrap them and go with one of the higher end brads, but I hate throwing money away. If I can make them work I will. Just wondering if anyone has some advice or has had similar issues. I appreciate your help. |
03-27-2012, 08:21 PM | #2 | |
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03-27-2012, 09:09 PM | #3 |
IDBZ M.C.
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I just dimpled mine until I had good clearance. The other side fit perfect. I bent my steering shaft a little by accident but it has not presented a problem at all.
Once installed, they look and sound awesome!
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03-28-2012, 01:48 AM | #4 |
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people say dimple, i just bought these last week and i put a nice dent in mine with the male part of the jackstand. the dent wasnt really deep just about 1-1.5 inch wide from top to bottom
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03-28-2012, 01:50 AM | #5 |
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i say dont be scared to bang em really good. i only banged one of the pipes but i wacked it about 30 times.
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03-28-2012, 08:54 AM | #6 |
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I would be a bit nervous BANGING on these, you would be much better to use a vice or something controled to put a smooth bend or dent. If you could support the back radius of the specific tube and then use something similiar shape of the steering column to make the dent in the other side.
Sharp bangs can not be the best for welds if there are any weak points which we would hope there would not be but this IS the rear world. Plus, it would look much nicer in the end.
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03-28-2012, 09:12 AM | #7 |
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I can't help you much but will tell you to be CAREFUL not to "ding" them too much as you will restrict the exhaust flow on the cylinder which "could" cause that cylinder to run hotter than the others. For the record, I have an L99 with Kooks LTH and they fit GREAT with no mods needed.
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03-28-2012, 09:55 AM | #8 |
IDBZ M.C.
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Hit it about ten time with a hammer. Placed a towel on the header and hit it a few times and check it.
A few whacks with a hammer=save $600 on Long Tube Headers.
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03-28-2012, 12:07 PM | #9 |
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Just put a set on a friend's car last week. We had to heat up the tube, and then used a1 1/4" socket and a hammer to "dimple" the tube about 1/4" to clear the steering shaft.
I understand the desire to save money by going with these, but the need to bang them up just kills it. Add to that the fact that making a mistake and over-compressing the tube and you have a big problem if you put boost or nitrous through that motor in the future. Fortunately for my friend, he's staying NA, but it is something to think about.
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03-28-2012, 02:38 PM | #10 |
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My dynatech Supermaxx headers bolted onto the L99 with no issues at all....
Personally, paying an extra $600 for a set of headers that actually fit the car properly would be well worth the investment. I mean, are these made for the Gen V or not? If there are differences between the LS3 and L99, that should be listed in the product information. Thats beside the point, hopefully you get them on with plenty of clearance between the steering column.
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03-28-2012, 05:59 PM | #11 |
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Thank for the input guys. I will take a picture when I get home. I may try heating the tube up and giving it one more try.
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03-29-2012, 05:02 AM | #12 |
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im just sayin these are $300. i banged mine real good and my little dent is not really deep or sharp more of a gradual flattening (if that makes sense)and mine are fine you cant tell from under the hood or below. you would have to take my header out to see it
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03-29-2012, 12:35 PM | #13 |
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A good set of headers would not only have fit without any problems but also would make more power. By "dimpling" the tube you are restricting your flow therefore losing power. For as much work as it is to install headers, and with all the info available on the forums why would you skimp on a set headers.
Not to bag on the op but with all the info out there, why do people continue to support these poor quality parts? Besides the obvious performance loss, think of the safety issue, these cars have soft mounts allowing the engine to move, steering shaft bind against the header can occur as the engine torques over, think of your safety and that of others.
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