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BATMOB1LE · 08-21-2014, 11:01 AM

Whats up guys? I got my Havoc diffuser in today and it looks a bit rough.

I emailed IVS a number of times to ask about earlier problems that I read about. He assured me everything was taken care of and quality was going to be top notch.

I'm "new" to aftermarket parts and not OEM parts, so I'm not sure if this is normal or what?

The slots for the vents are uneven and jagged. Cuts all over the diffuser are sharp, jagged and sharp.

Is this typical of these diffusers? Not sure what to do here. I love the look of the diffuser but I don't want to sacrifice a nice, clean OEM fit & finished look.

What do you think?

elarson5757 · 08-21-2014, 11:36 AM

I guess I would answer in two ways. First yes that is typical of those diffusers and the material and process used to make them BUT...

I can tell you that once installed you will never see that stuff. I did have my painter clean mine up quite a bit before painting because Im anal as hell but getting it on the car I realized it was a waste of money except for my own piece of mind. That stuff at least on mine was either on the back of it which isn't visible installed or on the tabs and edges not visible once installed.

elarson5757 · 08-21-2014, 11:39 AM

I will also add that the guy that bought IVS and all of it's issues has worked his butt off to fix it and he did me right. The first one I got was horrible and I worked extensively with him personally so he had the info he needed to correct the primary issues. Once he had that done he made it right with me. I'd go back to them in a heart beat.

They like everyone are busy and email takes some time. If you want PM me and I'll get you some contact info to call Geoff lazar (the owner).

1fastmf · 08-21-2014, 11:40 AM

A bit rough? That looks like piece of sh*t.. I would never consider putting some thing of that quailty on my car

ajp · 08-21-2014, 11:45 AM

Dont think mine looked like that, I would not accept that personally.

LBJ · 08-21-2014, 12:10 PM

Ask for a new one. .that's one not good at all

TommyTheCat · 08-21-2014, 12:18 PM

Pictures of the whole diffuser from afar?
It shouldn't show, I've heard that the havoc diffuser is NOT a direct replacement and requires trimming and lots of patience to fit it correctly. Those jagged edges will probably be trimmed off in the process anyway and are just there for extra trimming space? Always better to be too big than too small

again I don't have one so I don't know for sure

BATMOB1LE · 08-21-2014, 05:56 PM

I'll try to take more pics but I put it back in the box right away. It pissed me off to look at. $550 later and that is what I get after being PROMISED top quality. Even if it's under the car and hard to see... it'll still be poor quality and that could show in a year or two.

I'm not even sure I want another one. I'm thinking I should have just gone with the ZL1 diffuser. I didn't necessarily want quad tips but I do want a nice OEM fit and finish.

I hate leaving things up in the air...

10aSSee D · 08-21-2014, 07:22 PM

Mine came like that to, I think it's how it comes out of the mold. Like stated above it will never show once on the car but I did smooth mine out a little. I have worked with the new owner as well and he is very good to deal with. Once I got it on I was very pleased with it and it looks great!!

BATMOB1LE · 08-21-2014, 07:34 PM

I hear you. But the slots for the vents are crooked and not even. Even if I had to get on my hands and knees to see it, it would show.

For $550, I'm not pleased. After my paint guy makes it look right, paints it and installs it, I'd be well over $1000.

I decided to email them and ask for a full refund. I'm really picky about my car. I just can't have something on it with this lack of quality.

Although I LOVE the look of this diffuser, it's not worth the price... in my opinion.

camarozzzz · 08-21-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BATMOB1LE

I hear you. But the slots for the vents are crooked and not even. Even if I had to get on my hands and knees to see it, it would show.

For $550, I'm not pleased. After my paint guy makes it look right, paints it and installs it, I'd be well over $1000.

I decided to email them and ask for a full refund. I'm really picky about my car. I just can't have something on it with this lack of quality.

Although I LOVE the look of this diffuser, it's not worth the price... in my opinion.

I would never accept this. Looks sketchy. I was going to buy their spoiler a year or two ago but I found a ton of threads on here about how their quality is very iffy. Looks like the same is still going on...sad because their stuff does look really nice in pictures...

Goran · 08-21-2014, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BATMOB1LE

I hear you. But the slots for the vents are crooked and not even. Even if I had to get on my hands and knees to see it, it would show.

For $550, I'm not pleased. After my paint guy makes it look right, paints it and installs it, I'd be well over $1000.

I decided to email them and ask for a full refund. I'm really picky about my car. I just can't have something on it with this lack of quality.

Although I LOVE the look of this diffuser, it's not worth the price... in my opinion.

They should come in much better shape for the money we pay I totally agree! I had similar experience, but I loved the look so much that we had to do some work on the diffuser before painting it and installing it. Tony from Rideskinz was nice enough to help me thru the whole process.

You will have to work it out with IVS bud, I'm sure they will either give you full refund or work it out on sending you another peace.
If you have patience to see this done, you will be very happy once installed on your car.

Good luck!

10aSSee D · 08-24-2014, 02:46 PM

Did you ever talk to IVS?

Jn2 · 08-24-2014, 03:27 PM

that first pic you can see where the mold left the section that needed to be cut clearly visible. Im thinking they made the part, went in and quickly cut out the holes, not following their own mold, look to have been done by hand based on the wavy cuts on the slits

Im thinking they expect your paint/body guy to spend time cleaning that stuff up

08-21-2014, 11:01 AM	#1
BATMOB1LE • HT • Drives: 2013 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 907	Got my Havoc Diffuser... not sure what to think. Whats up guys? I got my Havoc diffuser in today and it looks a bit rough. I emailed IVS a number of times to ask about earlier problems that I read about. He assured me everything was taken care of and quality was going to be top notch. I'm "new" to aftermarket parts and not OEM parts, so I'm not sure if this is normal or what? The slots for the vents are uneven and jagged. Cuts all over the diffuser are sharp, jagged and sharp. Is this typical of these diffusers? Not sure what to do here. I love the look of the diffuser but I don't want to sacrifice a nice, clean OEM fit & finished look. What do you think? Attached Images __________________ 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE - 402 of 451 "BATMOB1LE" - Xpel Stealth Wrap - ZL1 Rockers - 18% Tint - Custom Badges - Heritage Grille - BMR 1.4" Springs - Solo Performance Axel-Back Exhaust - Recaro Sport Seats

08-21-2014, 11:45 AM	#5
ajp 50th Anniversary Vert Drives: Camaro 2017 50th Anniversary Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 2,315 View My Garage	Dont think mine looked like that, I would not accept that personally. __________________

08-21-2014, 12:10 PM	#6
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08-21-2014, 05:56 PM	#8
BATMOB1LE • HT • Drives: 2013 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 907	I'll try to take more pics but I put it back in the box right away. It pissed me off to look at. $550 later and that is what I get after being PROMISED top quality. Even if it's under the car and hard to see... it'll still be poor quality and that could show in a year or two. I'm not even sure I want another one. I'm thinking I should have just gone with the ZL1 diffuser. I didn't necessarily want quad tips but I do want a nice OEM fit and finish. I hate leaving things up in the air... __________________ 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE - 402 of 451 "BATMOB1LE" - Xpel Stealth Wrap - ZL1 Rockers - 18% Tint - Custom Badges - Heritage Grille - BMR 1.4" Springs - Solo Performance Axel-Back Exhaust - Recaro Sport Seats

08-21-2014, 07:22 PM	#9
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Mine came like that to, I think it's how it comes out of the mold. Like stated above it will never show once on the car but I did smooth mine out a little. I have worked with the new owner as well and he is very good to deal with. Once I got it on I was very pleased with it and it looks great!! __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

08-21-2014, 11:36 AM	#2
elarson5757 Obsessed and Loving It... Drives: 2013 1LE-SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saginaw, MI Posts: 524	I guess I would answer in two ways. First yes that is typical of those diffusers and the material and process used to make them BUT... I can tell you that once installed you will never see that stuff. I did have my painter clean mine up quite a bit before painting because Im anal as hell but getting it on the car I realized it was a waste of money except for my own piece of mind. That stuff at least on mine was either on the back of it which isn't visible installed or on the tabs and edges not visible once installed.

08-21-2014, 11:39 AM	#3
elarson5757 Obsessed and Loving It... Drives: 2013 1LE-SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saginaw, MI Posts: 524	I will also add that the guy that bought IVS and all of it's issues has worked his butt off to fix it and he did me right. The first one I got was horrible and I worked extensively with him personally so he had the info he needed to correct the primary issues. Once he had that done he made it right with me. I'd go back to them in a heart beat. They like everyone are busy and email takes some time. If you want PM me and I'll get you some contact info to call Geoff lazar (the owner).

08-21-2014, 11:40 AM	#4
1fastmf Drives: SBM G8 Gt Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chicago Posts: 206	A bit rough? That looks like piece of sh*t.. I would never consider putting some thing of that quailty on my car

08-21-2014, 12:18 PM	#7
TommyTheCat SHKE BKE Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,108	Pictures of the whole diffuser from afar? It shouldn't show, I've heard that the havoc diffuser is NOT a direct replacement and requires trimming and lots of patience to fit it correctly. Those jagged edges will probably be trimmed off in the process anyway and are just there for extra trimming space? Always better to be too big than too small again I don't have one so I don't know for sure

08-21-2014, 07:34 PM	#10
BATMOB1LE • HT • Drives: 2013 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 907	I hear you. But the slots for the vents are crooked and not even. Even if I had to get on my hands and knees to see it, it would show. For $550, I'm not pleased. After my paint guy makes it look right, paints it and installs it, I'd be well over $1000. I decided to email them and ask for a full refund. I'm really picky about my car. I just can't have something on it with this lack of quality. Although I LOVE the look of this diffuser, it's not worth the price... in my opinion. __________________ 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS/1LE - 402 of 451 "BATMOB1LE" - Xpel Stealth Wrap - ZL1 Rockers - 18% Tint - Custom Badges - Heritage Grille - BMR 1.4" Springs - Solo Performance Axel-Back Exhaust - Recaro Sport Seats

08-24-2014, 02:46 PM	#13
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	Did you ever talk to IVS? __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

08-24-2014, 03:27 PM	#14
Jn2 Drives: Solstice GXP Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: DFW Posts: 175	that first pic you can see where the mold left the section that needed to be cut clearly visible. Im thinking they made the part, went in and quickly cut out the holes, not following their own mold, look to have been done by hand based on the wavy cuts on the slits Im thinking they expect your paint/body guy to spend time cleaning that stuff up