2010 Camaro Rear End, strong? weak?? - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

flyby · 08-15-2010, 10:48 AM

I toasted the clutches in my rear with only about 500rwhp. A nine inch is being installed to replace it.

VADER SS L99 · 08-16-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering

I would disagree,first there has only been a handfull of 9 second passes and most of the time those are types of cars that dont get many miles on them,in other words the next pass could be the rears last.Most cars that run great times use a smaller rim than the 20 inch stock wheel therefore giving the rear a big cusion since it has alot more sidewall to soften the hit. We have seen many,many failures with the stock rear and aftermarket gears due to the size of the gear and the weight of the camaro. You can have a lot less power than the 9 second guys and granade your rear with the much smaller sidewall that your 20s have.

Keyword to alot of those failures being aftermarket gears thus not being a stock center section. If I were you I would disagree with me too because otherwise you might not make as much money. Until recently there was not even an option for a different rear end and many many have been doing multiple passes on the stock center section with zero failures on slicks. I think cutting 1.5 60ft times with 1000hp is alot more abuse on the rear end than 20" wheels.

usmcjlp · 08-16-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by EnvyTerra

You can just check the warranty section and see how many stock rear ends went...

I've been looking, no luck. Can you please post a link?

flyby · 08-16-2010, 08:26 AM

All I can tell you is that my rear went. Only 500RWHP also Janetty racing has a "patch" available to fix what he sees is the weakness. If you start doing 1 wheel burn outs or feel you are not getting the power you should, check the rear it probably needs working on.

VADER SS L99 · 08-17-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EnvyTerra

OK i got tired of reading those after about the 8th one and none had a rear end failure other than axles which we all know are weak. Some of those threads had nothing to do with anyone breaking anything on the car. Most were axles or transmission failures. This rear end is alot stronger than people give it credit for. I am coming from a 4th gen F body and this rear end is 10x stronger than that POS s-10 rear end.

SummitWhiteLS · 08-17-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

OK i got tired of reading those after about the 8th one and none had a rear end failure other than axles which we all know are weak. Some of those threads had nothing to do with anyone breaking anything on the car. ... This rear end is alot stronger than people give it credit for.

Good to know!

Hendrix-Engineering · 08-17-2010, 08:11 AM

I wish i had the picture of Owen welding his rear end together making it a spool at the lsx shotout last year lol what a site

BLWN SS · 08-17-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by flyby

All I can tell you is that my rear went. Only 500RWHP also Janetty racing has a "patch" available to fix what he sees is the weakness. If you start doing 1 wheel burn outs or feel you are not getting the power you should, check the rear it probably needs working on.

X2 - Whats your definition of breaking? I've got an automatic tuned to shift quick and hard (compared to stock) and doubt I'll break axles however the posi went after a couple dozen passes with stock gears and 315 DR's. You dont have the shock load on the components with the automatic (until someone develops a trany brake) but you are putting torque to the same components. Without the shock load we have found the component (posi) that can not handle the torque. I had a conversation with someone who has been in the 9's on all stock coponents (automatic)from the drivrshaft back on slicks who has not had an issue with the posi because they are being very carefull not to. The main advice he gave was to get the wheel speed up in the burnout box to minimize the stresses as thats where your likely to fry the posi.

IMO If you bought the stick you most likely will need to beaf everything up if you (Drag) race seriously because you will eventually break. With the automatic the posi will eventually bite you.

mikepage0007 · 08-17-2010, 08:42 AM

31,191 active camaro5 members - members that run ther card reallllly hard 1000- people that run car at track and semi hard -3000- people that never run at track that do burnouts, shift hard, and sometimes have no real idea how to drive, shift or prepare car for no wheelhop...wheelhop is usually a recipe for driveline catastrophe ,the other ramainder of camaro5 members- 27,191...so how many members are having driveline issues ..lets say 300..thats a high # but still represents less than 1%..i,m sure a part of that # could also be related to driver error, not learning proper techniques or staying in throttle thru wheelhop..so answer to question is - is driveline weak.-no..can you break driveline parts -sure..can you do things to help not break driveline parts- definetly..it also has been shown that lowering car can increase chance of breaking axles, due to pitch of axle spline...but if you mod car keeping the premise of what a stock driveline can perform , and drive it like you stole it ..you most likely would be ok...but don,t build a 1000hp car like speedster and expect it to be able to perform on stock driveline ..imo

calbert1999 · 10-15-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Speed74SS

I ran my car pretty hard at the track last night for about 8 - 10 runs and it felt solid. I have the LPE 570hp package putting 520hp to the wheels. I also have 2200 miles on the car. I think you are safe as well.

520rwhp? That's a lightweight. Almost everyone with an SS get's that with minor upgrades.
Based on all the posts on C5, I think most people need to start upgrading once they get into the 600+rwhp ranges.
Clutches, going and rear ends busting up all over the place.
But, if you're getting over 600rwhp. you probably don't mind the upgrades to utilize the power safely. I know I"m not going to mind it when mine is 700rwhp.

jumbomike55 · 11-16-2010, 05:58 PM

I blew my rear end two weeks ago at the track. I was doing my third run, going against another 2010 SS. I got the rpms up to about 2800-3000. When I let the clutch go I heard a loud bang. Well to make a long story short, when chevy opened up the rear diff the tech noted " found spider gear's shattered and severe metal contamination" The dealer replaced the rear under the warranty. I was lucky this time, but I'm beefing up the rear this spring.

LPE 600HP package
527 rwhp 501 rwt
nitto 555R DR

GMRULZ · 11-17-2010, 06:48 AM

Automatics unless insane horsepower is reached have no trouble, except possible the limited slip differential. Manaul cars, well lets just say it is possible to break the axle shafts on a stock car. The "hit" from the maual car is much more severe as there is no preload on the rear like in an automatic. Of course how you drive it and the setup and power level all contribute.

hotcamaro5ss2010 · 10-28-2011, 04:41 PM

i just broke a stock right rear axle shaft with the stock engine so!!!!

Driveshaftshop · 10-28-2011, 04:53 PM

you do know its a chain, stop the axles from breaking and.......

The driver has allot to do with the rear breaking or staying in the car, 6 speeds with a good clutch or a trans break will shock it pretty good. Drag radials are also going to raise the shock factor to a point of breakage. it is mostly the high Hp guy tough that need a better diff.

08-17-2010, 08:42 AM	#23
mikepage0007 Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: port st lucie ,florida Posts: 4,273	31,191 active camaro5 members - members that run ther card reallllly hard 1000- people that run car at track and semi hard -3000- people that never run at track that do burnouts, shift hard, and sometimes have no real idea how to drive, shift or prepare car for no wheelhop...wheelhop is usually a recipe for driveline catastrophe ,the other ramainder of camaro5 members- 27,191...so how many members are having driveline issues ..lets say 300..thats a high # but still represents less than 1%..i,m sure a part of that # could also be related to driver error, not learning proper techniques or staying in throttle thru wheelhop..so answer to question is - is driveline weak.-no..can you break driveline parts -sure..can you do things to help not break driveline parts- definetly..it also has been shown that lowering car can increase chance of breaking axles, due to pitch of axle spline...but if you mod car keeping the premise of what a stock driveline can perform , and drive it like you stole it ..you most likely would be ok...but don,t build a 1000hp car like speedster and expect it to be able to perform on stock driveline ..imo __________________

11-16-2010, 05:58 PM	#25
jumbomike55 Drives: 2010 Lingenfelter Camaro SS. 600 HP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chester, NY Posts: 51 View My Garage	Blown Rear End I blew my rear end two weeks ago at the track. I was doing my third run, going against another 2010 SS. I got the rpms up to about 2800-3000. When I let the clutch go I heard a loud bang. Well to make a long story short, when chevy opened up the rear diff the tech noted " found spider gear's shattered and severe metal contamination" The dealer replaced the rear under the warranty. I was lucky this time, but I'm beefing up the rear this spring. LPE 600HP package 527 rwhp 501 rwt nitto 555R DR

11-17-2010, 06:48 AM	#26
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	Automatics unless insane horsepower is reached have no trouble, except possible the limited slip differential. Manaul cars, well lets just say it is possible to break the axle shafts on a stock car. The "hit" from the maual car is much more severe as there is no preload on the rear like in an automatic. Of course how you drive it and the setup and power level all contribute. __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

10-28-2011, 04:41 PM	#27
hotcamaro5ss2010 Drives: camaro 2SS/RS 2010 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Laval Posts: 20	Broken rear axle i just broke a stock right rear axle shaft with the stock engine so!!!!

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08-15-2010, 10:48 AM	#15
flyby Drives: 2010 Silver SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Glen Gardner, NJ Posts: 1,336 View My Garage	I toasted the clutches in my rear with only about 500rwhp. A nine inch is being installed to replace it.

08-16-2010, 08:26 AM	#18
flyby Drives: 2010 Silver SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Glen Gardner, NJ Posts: 1,336 View My Garage	All I can tell you is that my rear went. Only 500RWHP also Janetty racing has a "patch" available to fix what he sees is the weakness. If you start doing 1 wheel burn outs or feel you are not getting the power you should, check the rear it probably needs working on.

08-17-2010, 08:11 AM	#21
Hendrix-Engineering Account Suspended Drives: First 9 inch-12 bolt IRS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: nc Posts: 1,835	I wish i had the picture of Owen welding his rear end together making it a spool at the lsx shotout last year lol what a site

10-28-2011, 04:53 PM	#28
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	you do know its a chain, stop the axles from breaking and....... The driver has allot to do with the rear breaking or staying in the car, 6 speeds with a good clutch or a trans break will shock it pretty good. Drag radials are also going to raise the shock factor to a point of breakage. it is mostly the high Hp guy tough that need a better diff.