Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V6 LFX Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-20-2014, 11:03 AM   #1
Blu Ray
ALWAYS-N-BOOST
 
Blu Ray's Avatar
 
Drives: 2021 ZLE A10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Alpine, NJ
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to Blu Ray Send a message via Yahoo to Blu Ray
PORTED THROTTLEBODY QUESTION

Shopping around,

JDP offers a "New" and "Used" PTB there the only site out there with this option. The "NEW" PTB also comes with a $$$ premimum charge.

My question is when I order from other Vendors that do not offer "NEW vs USED" are they really NEW PTB or Refurbished Cores other customers returned.

Is there a benefit of having a New vs Used
__________________

2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold
2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold
2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold
2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10
Blu Ray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:11 AM   #2
Squillo

 
Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS BRM LS3
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 1,174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blu Ray View Post
Shopping around,

Refurbished Cores other customers returned.

Is there a benefit of having a New vs Used
Most likely this. No benefit, all they do is machine the hole bigger on the returned cores.
Squillo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:11 AM   #3
Spartan01


 
Spartan01's Avatar
 
Drives: Evil Eva, 2010 2SS LS3
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Falls Church, Virginia
Posts: 3,600
Generally they are going to be refurbished cores.
VMAX uses CNC to machine out their TB's, which yields incredibly consistent results.
__________________
"You simply cannot trust quotes found on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln
Spartan01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:17 AM   #4
Blu Ray
ALWAYS-N-BOOST
 
Blu Ray's Avatar
 
Drives: 2021 ZLE A10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Alpine, NJ
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to Blu Ray Send a message via Yahoo to Blu Ray
Sorry for being a DUNCE but Maybe Im missing something, So who is actually refurbishing the Core units JDP or VMAX.

Exzample: I order a NEW unit JDP ships becuase there a VMAX Vendor

I order a Used unit its a core sent back to JDP

Who actually refurbishes the cores JDP or VMAX?
__________________

2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold
2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold
2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold
2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10
Blu Ray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:19 AM   #5
DieselAries1
 
DieselAries1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Camaro LS
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vermont
Posts: 292
What kind of performance gain do you get from these? Maybe 5hp? Quicker throttle response?
DieselAries1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:23 AM   #6
Blu Ray
ALWAYS-N-BOOST
 
Blu Ray's Avatar
 
Drives: 2021 ZLE A10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Alpine, NJ
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to Blu Ray Send a message via Yahoo to Blu Ray
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselAries1 View Post
What kind of performance gain do you get from these? Maybe 5hp? Quicker throttle response?
VMAX Motorsports CNC ported throttle bodies offer increased throttle response as well as HP/TQ gains through out the power band. We've seen 4-6 RWHP and Peak #'s up to 12 with this simple and inexpensive mod; for the money they can't be beat! These TB's don't require any tuning and the install is 15-20 minutes taking your time.
__________________

2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold
2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold
2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold
2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10
Blu Ray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:26 AM   #7
1LE801
"Lohla"
 
1LE801's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 1SS A8 :"Lohla"
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Utah
Posts: 711
I have one. Throttle response is obviously improved. Cheapest 6-10 rwhp you'll buy. Must have! Got mine from JDP. New unit.
1LE801 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:36 AM   #8
gajagfan


 
gajagfan's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 3,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1LE801 View Post
I have one. Throttle response is obviously improved. Cheapest 6-10 rwhp you'll buy. Must have! Got mine from JDP. New unit.
Out of curiosity, how much are these units?
gajagfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:40 AM   #9
Spartan01


 
Spartan01's Avatar
 
Drives: Evil Eva, 2010 2SS LS3
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Falls Church, Virginia
Posts: 3,600
Quote:
Originally Posted by gajagfan View Post
Out of curiosity, how much are these units?
Typically around $150, but usually there is also a $150 core charge that is refunded once you return your stock TB.

I know people on this thread are claiming 4-6 and up to 12 RWHP.
to them I say SHOW ME THE DYNO SHEET, otherwise you are being a silly person and speaking nonsense.
The ported TB will greatly improve throttle response, but I have yet to see any RWHP gain from this mod alone
__________________
"You simply cannot trust quotes found on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln
Spartan01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #10
Blu Ray
ALWAYS-N-BOOST
 
Blu Ray's Avatar
 
Drives: 2021 ZLE A10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Alpine, NJ
Posts: 2,376
Send a message via AIM to Blu Ray Send a message via Yahoo to Blu Ray
Quote:
Originally Posted by gajagfan View Post
Out of curiosity, how much are these units?
New is $275
Used is $150
__________________

2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold
2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold
2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold
2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10
Blu Ray is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:48 AM   #11
PalmerGA


 
PalmerGA's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Southwest GA
Posts: 8,755
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1LE801 View Post
I have one. Throttle response is obviously improved. Cheapest 6-10 rwhp you'll buy. Must have!
Absolutely! VMax claims 12-16 RWHP gain without a tune - more with. Got mine through Apex Motorsports. Core charge deposit posted to my account 5 days after I sent the stock TB back. Super service. Super product. Well worth the $150.
__________________
2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)
PalmerGA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:48 AM   #12
gajagfan


 
gajagfan's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Black - Std Exhaust
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Brunswick, GA
Posts: 3,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan01 View Post
Typically around $150, but usually there is also a $150 core charge that is refunded once you return your stock TB.

I know people on this thread are claiming 4-6 and up to 12 RWHP.
to them I say SHOW ME THE DYNO SHEET, otherwise you are being a silly person and speaking nonsense.
The ported TB will greatly improve throttle response, but I have yet to see any RWHP gain from this mod alone
That is kind of where I was going after the "must have" comments. I know I am old school (because I am old), but I never saw anything that was externally bolted on to an engine that gave a worthwhile HP increase except nitrous, superchargers and turbos. Thanks for the feedback.
gajagfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:50 AM   #13
angie7
Smoked by a GIRL
 
angie7's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 3,748
I just installed a VMAX over the weekend from Tampa Tuning. Its $150 + $200 core charge, $200 is returned when you send your TB to them so it actually only costs you $150 bucks. The one I bought looked new, no issues at all. I painted it and installed the next day in just a few mins. Noticeable throttle response and definately a good mod.
__________________
2014 2SS/RS Summit White w/ IOM interior "Powder 2.0"
angie7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2014, 11:51 AM   #14
jravenfan
 
Drives: 2013 2SS Blue Ray Metallic
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Eldersburg MD
Posts: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan01 View Post
Typically around $150, but usually there is also a $150 core charge that is refunded once you return your stock TB.

I know people on this thread are claiming 4-6 and up to 12 RWHP.
to them I say SHOW ME THE DYNO SHEET, otherwise you are being a silly person and speaking nonsense.
The ported TB will greatly improve throttle response, but I have yet to see any RWHP gain from this mod alone
http://youtu.be/G-pUj4DdcbA

Found this.
__________________
jravenfan is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.