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DaFisch · 05-09-2013, 11:45 AM

I have a 2011 Camaro 2SS and so far I have gotten some lt headers w/ highflow cats, a new k&n cai intake, muffler delete, and some hawk breakpads.. The next thing I was looking to do is get a cam swap for my l99 engine but I am confused on what I need to intall it. Some people say i need to convert part of it to a ls3 and others are saying you have to disassemble the whole engine. If possible can someone make a list w/ links of the equipment/cam/ect that is most recommend for me? Thanks!
P.s. What mods should I do next? I'm getting lowered springs delivered Sunday

Retro69 · 05-09-2013, 11:51 AM

I would recommend calling Ted at Jannetty Racing. He can hook you up with everything you'll need for the cam swap. Great company to deal with.

Next mod? Pfadt ZL-spec sway bars. I did mine along with drop springs... What a different animal!

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LS3 SS · 05-09-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFisch

I have a 2011 Camaro 2SS and so far I have gotten some lt headers w/ highflow cats, a new k&n cai intake, muffler delete, and some hawk breakpads.. The next thing I was looking to do is get a cam swap for my l99 engine but I am confused on what I need to intall it. Some people say i need to convert part of it to a ls3 and others are saying you have to disassemble the whole engine. If possible can someone make a list w/ links of the equipment/cam/ect that is most recommend for me? Thanks!
P.s. What mods should I do next? I'm getting lowered springs delivered Sunday

Not trying to be funny, but there's atleast 5-7 of these type of threads that are actively currently in this section. Also you can get some of the information you're looking for through the search feature.

litle88 · 05-09-2013, 03:51 PM

Search is your friend.

But you have an L99 and you can stay either L99 and keep VVT and get a MAST SS cam with a 32/34/3600 stall get it tuned by rhino79 or you can go Ls3 conversion and get a NF cam.

But you need to remove the heads and get rid of the AFM lifters either way.

Just my .2

BLACK10 · 05-10-2013, 08:52 AM

Hi,

Feel free to give us a call here at Lethal Racing. we would be happy to answer any questions you may have

thahemp · 05-10-2013, 09:22 AM

How bout some bad cam advice for a change?

Install the cam backwards and drive in reverse. I hear the intake is a lot better at scavenging than the exhaust.

Jason 98 TA · 05-10-2013, 09:32 AM

With the L99 engine a lot of shops try to sell you VVT delete kits mostly because of a lack ok knowledge on how VVT works & how to tune it. We developed our VVT camshafts using a superflow engine dyno which allows us to make a matching VVT timing table for each rpm point up the entire rpm band. The result is a camshaft that uses different amounts of advance at different rpm points.

There's no reason to remove VVT & give up power. If you'd like to discuss the cam packages & how VVT works give us a call. You simply can't make close to the same average power with a non-VVT camshaft as you can a VVT cam.

A perfect example of how well VVT can work is the VVT-3 camshaft makes 100 flywheel HP gain & still brings power in early thanks to the VVT. Most large camshafts give up some low rpm power because they can't be advanced a lot early in the rpm band. The VVT allows you to do just that & the result is you can bring power in earlier!!
Jason
Texas Speed
www.texas-speed.com

Bell040 · 05-10-2013, 05:21 PM

This is the thread you need...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125123

c'mon guys.

Mchlgrrsn · 05-10-2013, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

How bout some bad cam advice for a change?

Install the cam backwards and drive in reverse. I hear the intake is a lot better at scavenging than the exhaust.

Now that's funny.

Alvin@PCMofNC · 05-12-2013, 10:24 AM

Please let us know if we can help you in anyway. Also please check out our build blogs to see our before and after results, videos, dyno graphs, etc.

LS3 SS · 05-12-2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alvin@PCMofNC

Please let us know if we can help you in anyway. Also please check out our build blogs to see our before and after results, videos, dyno graphs, etc.

If all goes well, I'll be seeing you guys in June!!

Rhino79 · 05-12-2013, 01:37 PM

VVT removal is a mistake, and you are sacrificing better power throughout the whole curve by doing so.
Current bad myths...
VVT Phaser isn't reliable.....complete bs. Ran it on my car up to 7600 rpms a lot of times. Ran it on fi setups.
VVT is a gimmick......complete bs. Sure GM uses it more so for EGR than power, but it is ON THE FLY cam degreeing. With a properly speced cam, it doesn't get any better than that.

My own personaly car runs high 10's on stock heads, with a vvt cam and afm delete. I have no interest in converting an l99 car to ls3. I don't like going backwards with things.

If you have any particular questions just shoot me a pm or email.

05-09-2013, 11:45 AM	#1
DaFisch Master Amateur Mechanic Drives: Victory Red 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: South Barrington, IL Posts: 1,720	Need Some Good Cam Advice I have a 2011 Camaro 2SS and so far I have gotten some lt headers w/ highflow cats, a new k&n cai intake, muffler delete, and some hawk breakpads.. The next thing I was looking to do is get a cam swap for my l99 engine but I am confused on what I need to intall it. Some people say i need to convert part of it to a ls3 and others are saying you have to disassemble the whole engine. If possible can someone make a list w/ links of the equipment/cam/ect that is most recommend for me? Thanks! P.s. What mods should I do next? I'm getting lowered springs delivered Sunday

05-09-2013, 11:51 AM	#2
Retro69 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Morgan, UT Posts: 1,359	I would recommend calling Ted at Jannetty Racing. He can hook you up with everything you'll need for the cam swap. Great company to deal with. Next mod? Pfadt ZL-spec sway bars. I did mine along with drop springs... What a different animal! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________

05-09-2013, 03:51 PM	#4
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Search is your friend. But you have an L99 and you can stay either L99 and keep VVT and get a MAST SS cam with a 32/34/3600 stall get it tuned by rhino79 or you can go Ls3 conversion and get a NF cam. But you need to remove the heads and get rid of the AFM lifters either way. Just my .2 __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

05-10-2013, 09:22 AM	#6
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	How bout some bad cam advice for a change? Install the cam backwards and drive in reverse. I hear the intake is a lot better at scavenging than the exhaust. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

05-10-2013, 05:21 PM	#8
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	This is the thread you need... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125123 c'mon guys. __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

05-10-2013, 08:52 AM	#5
BLACK10 Drives: 2010 CAMARO. 10.04@133mph, 1.4 60' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 4,585	Hi, Feel free to give us a call here at Lethal Racing. we would be happy to answer any questions you may have

05-10-2013, 09:32 AM	#7
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,669	With the L99 engine a lot of shops try to sell you VVT delete kits mostly because of a lack ok knowledge on how VVT works & how to tune it. We developed our VVT camshafts using a superflow engine dyno which allows us to make a matching VVT timing table for each rpm point up the entire rpm band. The result is a camshaft that uses different amounts of advance at different rpm points. There's no reason to remove VVT & give up power. If you'd like to discuss the cam packages & how VVT works give us a call. You simply can't make close to the same average power with a non-VVT camshaft as you can a VVT cam. A perfect example of how well VVT can work is the VVT-3 camshaft makes 100 flywheel HP gain & still brings power in early thanks to the VVT. Most large camshafts give up some low rpm power because they can't be advanced a lot early in the rpm band. The VVT allows you to do just that & the result is you can bring power in earlier!! Jason Texas Speed www.texas-speed.com

05-12-2013, 10:24 AM	#10
Alvin@PCMofNC Drives: 2010 IOM RSS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mooresville Posts: 363	Please let us know if we can help you in anyway. Also please check out our build blogs to see our before and after results, videos, dyno graphs, etc.

05-12-2013, 01:37 PM	#12
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	VVT removal is a mistake, and you are sacrificing better power throughout the whole curve by doing so. Current bad myths... VVT Phaser isn't reliable.....complete bs. Ran it on my car up to 7600 rpms a lot of times. Ran it on fi setups. VVT is a gimmick......complete bs. Sure GM uses it more so for EGR than power, but it is ON THE FLY cam degreeing. With a properly speced cam, it doesn't get any better than that. My own personaly car runs high 10's on stock heads, with a vvt cam and afm delete. I have no interest in converting an l99 car to ls3. I don't like going backwards with things. If you have any particular questions just shoot me a pm or email.