Please keep calling GM and complaining about AFM!!! - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Tomato · 10-30-2009, 10:46 PM

Looks like they have heard us, as most have seen the "memo" or TSB they issued regarding AFM complaints. Please keep calling them and asking for a way to shut it off. Best/most reasonable would be to disable it when we shift into M/Sport Mode or Competitive Mode on the Stabilitrak.

Easy fix for GM -we just need our voices to be heard!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-30-2009, 10:49 PM

Shut it off?

That seems a little counter-productive, don't you think?

kismyss · 10-30-2009, 10:52 PM

do you have phone numbers of who to call or email addresses how about a petition

ShnOmac · 10-30-2009, 11:05 PM

If there is a way for the consumer to shut it off(without a tune) that defeats the purpose and the Fuel economy ratings would no longer be valid and could help raise the fleet average. Im just sayin....

*Milk 1027* · 10-30-2009, 11:08 PM

yeah, that's just counter-productive

BackinBlackSS/RS · 10-30-2009, 11:09 PM

Ok, but what about the TSB? What is that all about?

Kodiak Ak · 10-30-2009, 11:10 PM

I vote that AFM works in drive only. We have VVT, we might as well be able to use it on the longer drives. It will also save future buyers of this car from paying the gas guzzler tax.

Sport/M mode no AFM.

Give us the option to turn AFM off by shifting in to S/M mode. Sport mode is not very sporty in a 4 cylinder.

Ject · 10-30-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodiak Ak

I vote that AFM works in drive only. We have VVT, we might as well be able to use it on the longer drives. It will also save future buyers of this car from paying the gas guzzler tax.

Sport/M mode no AFM.

Give us the option to turn AFM off by shifting in to S/M mode. Sport mode is not very sporty in a 4 cylinder.

lol

I agree..
I disagree on the shifting into M to turn off AFM, It would probably still get the gas guzzler tax...
More practical would be when we turn off T/C and Competitive mode on that AFM would be turned off.

the sound of it turning on and off with my exhaust is annoying as h3ll..... not to mention the rumble/vibration feeling i get when i push the gas just a little to kick it back into all 8 cylinders.

GMRULZ · 10-31-2009, 09:02 AM

turned mine off completely w/ a tune. Picked up 3mpg on the hwy w/ a proper tune and no AFM vs AFM and factory tune. If GM would have just tuned it better they wouldn`t need the stinking AFM to keep from getting the guzzler tax.

Tomato · 10-31-2009, 10:54 AM

Counter productive? Come on. It's counter intuitive to have AFM kick in if you are driving in Competitive Mode. This suggests, as Chevy calls it, spirited driving. There's no way AFM is going to save fuel if it's kicking on for a few seconds at a time.

I won't argue about the M/S trans setting, but let's get it deactive with Comp mode.

Call 1.800-222-1020. I know I along with several others already have.

*DGthe3* · 10-31-2009, 03:17 PM

I can see both sides, but I agree that it doesn't make much sense to have AFM engage while you are in sport or competitive mode.

FEVER · 10-31-2009, 03:53 PM

I missed the TSB, what did it say.

prostock69 · 10-31-2009, 04:19 PM

We had our car tuned to where it only comes on when the vehicle reaches 55 mph. It is SOOOO much better now, especially if you have headers on your car (which only makes the AFM noise more noticeable and aggravating).

*DGthe3* · 10-31-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by prostock69

We had our car tuned to where it only comes on when the vehicle reaches 55 mph. It is SOOOO much better now, especially if you have headers on your car (which only makes the AFM noise more noticeable and aggravating).

I thought it already had a similar minimum speed

10-30-2009, 10:46 PM	#1
Tomato G-Force Addict Drives: 2010 SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Escalon, CA Posts: 196	Please keep calling GM and complaining about AFM!!! Looks like they have heard us, as most have seen the "memo" or TSB they issued regarding AFM complaints. Please keep calling them and asking for a way to shut it off. Best/most reasonable would be to disable it when we shift into M/Sport Mode or Competitive Mode on the Stabilitrak. Easy fix for GM -we just need our voices to be heard!

10-30-2009, 10:49 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Shut it off? That seems a little counter-productive, don't you think? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-30-2009, 11:08 PM	#5
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	yeah, that's just counter-productive __________________

10-31-2009, 09:02 AM	#9
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	turned mine off completely w/ a tune. Picked up 3mpg on the hwy w/ a proper tune and no AFM vs AFM and factory tune. If GM would have just tuned it better they wouldn`t need the stinking AFM to keep from getting the guzzler tax. __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

10-31-2009, 03:17 PM	#11
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I can see both sides, but I agree that it doesn't make much sense to have AFM engage while you are in sport or competitive mode. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

10-30-2009, 10:52 PM	#3
kismyss Drives: CGM 2SS Roto-Fab CAI, Mach XL CAT Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cypress TX Posts: 251	do you have phone numbers of who to call or email addresses how about a petition

10-30-2009, 11:05 PM	#4
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	If there is a way for the consumer to shut it off(without a tune) that defeats the purpose and the Fuel economy ratings would no longer be valid and could help raise the fleet average. Im just sayin....

10-30-2009, 11:09 PM	#6
BackinBlackSS/RS Go Blue!!!!! Drives: 2012 Cruze LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 23,290	Ok, but what about the TSB? What is that all about?

10-30-2009, 11:10 PM	#7
Kodiak Ak Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lost Posts: 43	I vote that AFM works in drive only. We have VVT, we might as well be able to use it on the longer drives. It will also save future buyers of this car from paying the gas guzzler tax. Sport/M mode no AFM. Give us the option to turn AFM off by shifting in to S/M mode. Sport mode is not very sporty in a 4 cylinder.

10-31-2009, 10:54 AM	#10
Tomato G-Force Addict Drives: 2010 SS/RS A6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Escalon, CA Posts: 196	Counter productive? Come on. It's counter intuitive to have AFM kick in if you are driving in Competitive Mode. This suggests, as Chevy calls it, spirited driving. There's no way AFM is going to save fuel if it's kicking on for a few seconds at a time. I won't argue about the M/S trans setting, but let's get it deactive with Comp mode. Call 1.800-222-1020. I know I along with several others already have.

10-31-2009, 03:53 PM	#12
FEVER Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 103	I missed the TSB, what did it say.

10-31-2009, 04:19 PM	#13
prostock69 Female Muscle Car Nut! Drives: 2010 RS/SS IOM Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 1,262 View My Garage	We had our car tuned to where it only comes on when the vehicle reaches 55 mph. It is SOOOO much better now, especially if you have headers on your car (which only makes the AFM noise more noticeable and aggravating). __________________ 2SS/RS Inferno Orange w/ black stripes, black/orange interior, Automatic, w/ sunroof and polished aluminum wheels MODS: Borla "S" Type Exhaust, American Racing Headers 3" Longtubes, New Era Cold Air Intake, HP Tune, Custom Ground Camshaft, Professionally Ported Heads by Darin Morgan, Ported Throttle Body, 3000 Stall Converter, and 160 Degree Thermostat. http://www.rehermorrison.com/; http://www.darinmorgan.com/; http://www.neweraperformance.com/