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JM10 · 08-10-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ

Now to follow up with some 1/4 mile a/b comparisons.... that's what I'd like to see.

With a 7hp or 8hp difference, I would think that is going to be pretty hard to do a fair 1/4 mile comparison.

White Devil · 08-10-2009, 02:24 PM

I would think the fact that the Hennessey is metal and probably heat soaks more than the LMR plastic "may" have a little to do with it. Don't quote me on that though.

*mlee* · 08-10-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TS95Z

In the end, I'd go with the one that fits your tastes. Debating heavily over CAI's is only an issue for those who plan to keep it basic with bolt-ons (and when you're only doing that, why NOT go with what looks best to you?). Once you start digging in and doing real mods and getting actual tuning done, which CAI you have is more of an afterthought than anything.

People don't hear my car and ask what CAI I'm running

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Originally Posted by JM10

With a 7hp or 8hp difference, I would think that is going to be pretty hard to do a fair 1/4 mile comparison.

Correct... My baseline 1/4 is bone stock... next will be with exhaust and CAI. No way you can figure out which CAI is better on the track...

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Originally Posted by White Devil

I would think the fact that the Hennessey is metal and probably heat soaks more than the LMR plastic "may" have a little to do with it. Don't quote me on that though.

Should not have been any heat soak with the Hennessey runs was from a cold start. Also I wouldn't be too concerned with heat soak on the Hennessey CAI.... Moving air is not affected that much. I ran this CAI for 2 months and it worked great... no problem touching it while hot. Try doing that with New Era...

Nine Ball · 08-10-2009, 03:08 PM

I think it is important to note that Mike's car was dyno'd twice with the first CAI. The pulls were nearly identical, with maybe 1 hp difference. The curves were right on top of each other. These cars dyno very consistently. Same thing with the second two pulls using the LMR CAI. The entire curve moved up, and it was also consistent.

I'm a huge skeptic when it comes to CAI tiddly-wink type mods, and I'm also a mechanical engineer too. I was convinced from the test after witnessing it, as were the rest of the crowd. Including the car owner

d69chris · 08-10-2009, 03:51 PM

Teambaddass,
Where did you get your LMR CAI painted?? I have the inferno orange eng. cov. and would like it to match. Nice Job!

sav1 · 08-10-2009, 04:11 PM

Any dyno numbers on this new unit yet?

Late Model Racecraft · 08-11-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TS95Z

The pulls were made with an open hood. Not much of a "seal" taking place when the top is popped

Quite a gap in results for essentially the same thing (free-flowing tube with a K&N filter in the same location).

But then again, the test was a bit flimsy on the scientific end of things.

Ideally, you would've done the Hennessey pulls, then let the car sit for a few hours before doing the LMR pull (as Mike's stated, his car had been sitting for 3 hours). This would help to balance the comparison for a more accurate test. Granted, time come into play as people were waiting to see the results.

The engineer in me wouldn't hand LMR the win with those numbers.

From experience, my own car runs better after its been driven and put through the paces vs. starting it up after its been sitting. Operating temperature and an evenly-distributed temp al a coolant flow is better than strapping it down and giving it hell after it has sat with the same hot coolant in the Texas heat for hours on end.

My bet is the HP/TQ difference is marginal under similar conditions for these two CAI's.

In the end, I'd go with the one that fits your tastes. Debating heavily over CAI's is only an issue for those who plan to keep it basic with bolt-ons (and when you're only doing that, why NOT go with what looks best to you?). Once you start digging in and doing real mods and getting actual tuning done, which CAI you have is more of an afterthought than anything.

People don't hear my car and ask what CAI I'm running

We did two back to back pulls to get accurate results. As for the hood being closed, we have done dyno testing that proved a difference of less than 2hp, which is standing still on the dyno. If you have a CAI system on your car already and would like to bring it to our shop, I will make two back to back pulls with the system currently on your car and then install our CAI system and to prove ours is the best on the market today.

JJ2010 · 08-11-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Late Model Racecraft

We did two back to back pulls to get accurate results. As for the hood being closed, we have done dyno testing that proved a difference of less than 2hp, which is standing still on the dyno. If you have a CAI system on your car already and would like to bring it to our shop, I will make two back to back pulls with the system currently on your car and then install our CAI system and to prove ours is the best on the market today.

Now that is Confidence in your product there......

I recieved my Carbon Fiber LMR CAI today.....

It will compliment my MagnaCharger,Kooks Headers, and Corsa Exhaust very nicely......

Thanks LMR for making a great product......

Superman09 · 08-11-2009, 11:29 PM

I was there and watched everything they did very closely. This are very legitimate results. They ran the car the same on all the runs and did everything the same with the computer. I would trust it, and like LMR has said take it to them they will prove it.

Late Model Racecraft · 08-12-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superman09

I was there and watched everything they did very closely. This are very legitimate results. They ran the car the same on all the runs and did everything the same with the computer. I would trust it, and like LMR has said take it to them they will prove it.

Yes sir! It was nice meeting you. Please feel free to stop on by the shop anytime to check out our newest projects.

KarFan · 08-13-2009, 11:45 AM

This reminds me of the early LS1 F-body days and when the lid mod was starting. In the beginning there were several styles and lots of different numbers but over time the best performing and I'll add best fitting stuck around and the others died out. These comparisons are good in finding out what works.

redjewel · 08-13-2009, 07:09 PM

I won't give away the info they gave me yesterday when they installed mine but they tried several different things to come to the final parts.

Now I just wish I did the carbon fiber.

Late Model Racecraft · 08-17-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ2010

Now that is Confidence in your product there......

I recieved my Carbon Fiber LMR CAI today.....

It will compliment my MagnaCharger,Kooks Headers, and Corsa Exhaust very nicely......

Thanks LMR for making a great product......

Thanks for your order and make sure and keep me updated with your build. I cant wait to hear how she does! I know you must be excited as hell!

Late Model Racecraft · 08-17-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by redjewel

I won't give away the info they gave me yesterday when they installed mine but they tried several different things to come to the final parts.

Now I just wish I did the carbon fiber.

Give me a call at the shop and I can sell you just the CF tube. I will work you a deal considering you already purchased the complete unit from us.

08-10-2009, 03:08 PM	#32
Nine Ball Drives: 1969 & 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,849	I think it is important to note that Mike's car was dyno'd twice with the first CAI. The pulls were nearly identical, with maybe 1 hp difference. The curves were right on top of each other. These cars dyno very consistently. Same thing with the second two pulls using the LMR CAI. The entire curve moved up, and it was also consistent. I'm a huge skeptic when it comes to CAI tiddly-wink type mods, and I'm also a mechanical engineer too. I was convinced from the test after witnessing it, as were the rest of the crowd. Including the car owner __________________ Fquick.com/NineBall

08-10-2009, 04:11 PM	#34
sav1 Drives: 2009 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 556	Any dyno numbers on this new unit yet? Attached Images

08-13-2009, 11:45 AM	#39
KarFan Drives: 2023 SGM Camaro 2SS 1LE 6M Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 575	This reminds me of the early LS1 F-body days and when the lid mod was starting. In the beginning there were several styles and lots of different numbers but over time the best performing and I'll add best fitting stuck around and the others died out. These comparisons are good in finding out what works. __________________ Past Camaro rides 1997 Black Camaro Z28 A4 1999 Silver Camaro SS 6M 2002 White Camaro Z28 A4

08-13-2009, 07:09 PM	#40
redjewel Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RJT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 257	I won't give away the info they gave me yesterday when they installed mine but they tried several different things to come to the final parts. Now I just wish I did the carbon fiber. __________________ 2SS RJT A6 Sunroof Polished Wheels. Delivered 5-22-09 by Classic Chevrolet Sugarland

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08-10-2009, 02:24 PM	#30
White Devil Drives: Summit White 1SS Soon Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 52	I would think the fact that the Hennessey is metal and probably heat soaks more than the LMR plastic "may" have a little to do with it. Don't quote me on that though.

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Superman09 Account SNAFU Drives: 13 Tahoe 79 Scout II 15 1LE Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 1,356 View My Garage	I was there and watched everything they did very closely. This are very legitimate results. They ran the car the same on all the runs and did everything the same with the computer. I would trust it, and like LMR has said take it to them they will prove it.