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Old 11-22-2008, 03:55 PM   #1
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G8 GXP review - wheelhop?

They have a review of the G8 GXP up at edmunds, only one thing worried me. They said that the car had wheelhop during launch. This makes me somewhat nervous but I don't know if this car has the different size half shafts that the Camaro will. Why would they leave that out of an otherwise awesome car?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

Just click on the specifications and scroll down to acceleration comments where they talk about the wheel hop.
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:58 PM   #2
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They have a review of the G8 GXP up at edmunds, only one thing worried me. They said that the car had wheelhop during launch. This makes me somewhat nervous but I don't know if this car has the different size half shafts that the Camaro will. Why would they leave that out of an otherwise awesome car?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.*

Just click on the specifications and scroll down to acceleration comments where they talk about the wheel hop.
Gotta love those superior, high-tech, IRS setups. Most likely, you will have to make some post-purchase modification to get rid of wheel-hop on the Camaro. I did with my GTO. The geometery is just not ideal for straightline performance.

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Old 11-22-2008, 04:31 PM   #3
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Wheel hop is common in the IRS Corvette, you just have to learn how to launch it. It's not very forgiving from a drag racing point of view. But out on a road course and things suddenly change.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:33 PM   #4
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There is a post on here from fbodfather talking about how they have taken care of that in the new cts-v and the camaro. The IRS are almost the same but the ones in the mentioned cars have been tweaked.
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Gotta love those superior, high-tech IRS setups. Most likely, you will have to make some post-purchase modification to get rid of wheel-hop on the Camaro. I did with my GTO. The geometery it just not ideal for straightline performance.
What does this statement have to do with the topic? Most likely, Camaro's "...high-tech IRS setup..." will out-carve your nose-heavy serpent. Please stay on topic.
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What does this statement have to do with the topic? Most likely, Camaro's "...high-tech IRS setup..." will out-carve your nose-heavy serpent. Please stay on topic.
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:49 PM   #7
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Quick GM! Take the IRS out and just stick a SOLID REAR AXLE in there, OK?

Check this ANSWER out:

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Unfortunately, the most effective launch is the ugliest and most abusive, with lots of axle hop from a lowish 2,500 rpm.

Higher rpm with smoother tire spin felt better, but was slower.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=153723


Unless I'm at the DRAG STRIP, (NEVER) IRS kicks the Mustink's primitive, cheapo ASS!

Oh wait, ALL great, modern sports cars use a SOLID REAR AXLE though, don't they?

NO - THEY DON'T.
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:12 PM   #8
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They have a review of the G8 GXP up at edmunds, only one thing worried me. They said that the car had wheelhop during launch. This makes me somewhat nervous but I don't know if this car has the different size half shafts that the Camaro will. Why would they leave that out of an otherwise awesome car?

Just click on the specifications and scroll down to acceleration comments where they talk about the wheel hop.
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Most likely, Camaro's "...high-tech IRS setup..." will out-carve your nose-heavy serpent. Please stay on topic.
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What does this statement have to do with the topic?
It was in reference to the statement in the original post. It is directly related to the topic.



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Unless I'm at the DRAG STRIP, (NEVER) IRS kicks the Mustink's primitive, cheapo ASS!
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Oh wait, ALL great, modern sports cars use a SOLID REAR AXLE though, don't they?

NO - THEY DON'T.
Well, I don't road course/auto-x my GT500, so I guess I chose the correct setup.

Look, I don't know how many times I have to say this, I AM A BIG FAN OF THE GEN5 CAMARO!!! I have no reason to bash it. Some people like to go on and on about how the Mustang does not have IRS and how that somehow makes it less of a pony car. I'm just pointing out there are pro's and con's to both suspension setups.

Oh, and BTW, Camaro's and Mustang's are not sports cars.

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Old 11-22-2008, 05:22 PM   #9
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Oh, and BTW, Camaro's and Mustang's are not sports cars.
Guess they are just real fast, powerful sporty cars.
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And here we go again. First let me say Fbodfather assured us all that wheel hop will not be a problem-END OF STORY! Maybe the GXP wont get the mods or maybe they tested a pre-pro that didnt have them yet. And sports car or not is arguable and has been discussed many times in the apropriate threads, please go there. Thanks and much love for our GT500 friend, I'm not targeting you here.
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Old 11-22-2008, 05:37 PM   #11
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It was in reference to the statement in the original post. It is directly related to the topic.





Well, I don't road course/auto-x my GT500, so I guess I chose the correct setup.

Look, I don't know how many times I have to say this, I AM A BIG FAN OF THE GEN5 CAMARO!!! I have no reason to bash it. Some people like to go on and on about how the Mustang does not have IRS and how that somehow makes it less of a pony car. I'm just pointing out there are pro's and con's to both suspension setups.

Oh, and BTW, Camaro's and Mustang's are not sports cars.


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Old 11-22-2008, 06:25 PM   #12
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It's not like SRAs have never hopped before...

Like many have already posted, wheel-hop has been addressed, and Camaro's suspension differs a little from the G8s, so there's nothing to worry about until there are actually problems with Camaros hopping. GTOs were known to hop, so that's not news, and since there haven't been official tests yet, there's no news here that would concern us
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Does the G8 have the unequal diameter axle shafts? It might not but I know the Camaro will like the ZR1 to help eliminate the hop.
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I can find no information on that. Truth be told, you could get most any suspension to hop if you abuse it or it's not tuned correctly. I think the G8 is aimed at a different audience than Camaro; with that said, I could see that they may not have felt the need to invest in straight-line tuning as much as general handling. I am interested in seeing if there are similarities, in halfshafts, with Camaro though. I've already tried searching a bit over on a G8 site without success. I'm sure the rear on that is more stout than that on the first of the last run the GTOs since the diffs' are strenthened moreso in G8s. There's no reason to worry
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