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Lonny Doyle · 04-01-2012, 07:42 AM

It is amazing that OEMs have spent billions of dollars over the last 130 years designing engines, testing, measuring exhaust gas contamination, meeting increasingly tighter EPA restrictions about oil control, tearing apart countless engines for inspection at different time periods and none of them can figure out that you should be going wide open throttle after just a few Dyno pulls.

The Zl1 is a work of art, GM created this work of art, they know more about it than anyone. I personally have a hard time believing that Motoman knows more about care of the ZL1 during break in than GM.

kbar4782 · 04-01-2012, 08:06 AM

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just said that both of you guys make sense. I have seen stock racing four wheelers that were broken in differently and there was a huge difference in how they ran. I also have many close friends that race dirt track with 20-30k motors and they don't go through a 1500 mile break in period. This is a good topic. The way I took the information on the link is you don't beat on the engine. You don't run high rpms so I don't really see the problem with it. The recommended break in is similar in that you aren't supposed to maintain a certain speed or rpms. Jmo

Happy_Dan · 04-01-2012, 08:14 AM

Racing engines are really different. You EXPECT to rebuild them after relatively low mileage. You want this one to last a couple of hundred thousand!

tmandoug1 · 04-01-2012, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy_Dan

Racing engines are really different. You EXPECT to rebuild them after relatively low mileage. You want this one to last a couple of hundred thousand!

kbar4782 · 04-01-2012, 10:09 AM

Maybe you plan on putting 200k on your Z, but not me! Lol

Z4me · 04-01-2012, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonny Doyle

It is amazing that OEMs have spent billions of dollars over the last 130 years designing engines, testing, measuring exhaust gas contamination, meeting increasingly tighter EPA restrictions about oil control, tearing apart countless engines for inspection at different time periods and none of them can figure out that you should be going wide open throttle after just a few Dyno pulls.

The Zl1 is a work of art, GM created this work of art, they know more about it than anyone. I personally have a hard time believing that Motoman knows more about care of the ZL1 during break in than GM.

Thank you for taking the time and sharing your many
years of exp concerning early engine wear. Discussions
and opinions such as yours are the reasons why this
website has grown in popularity over the past several
years.
I see you drive a firebird, one of my best memories of
buying a new car was my black 1977 Trans Am, followed
by my 1987 Buick Grand National. The ZL1 will be my
next great memory of purchasing a new car.
I look forward to reading your future posts on this
forum.

2012ZL1 · 04-01-2012, 04:17 PM

From the title I thought you had a robbery.

stymie · 04-01-2012, 04:34 PM

I'd break the ZL1 in just like the CHEVY factory manual states before unleashing HELL at 1.5K miles. The whole point is to avoid ABUSING the machine while the components seat. I'm kind of a fanatic when it comes to breaking in a precision rifle barrel too. It may seem like voodoo to some folks, but it has ALWAYS worked for me & other friends who drive hard & shoot @ 1000m.

kbar4782 · 04-01-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stymie

I'd break the ZL1 in just like the CHEVY factory manual states before unleashing HELL at 1.5K miles. The whole point is to avoid ABUSING the machine while the components seat. I'm kind of a fanatic when it comes to breaking in a precision rifle barrel too. It may seem like voodoo to some folks, but it has ALWAYS worked for me & other friends who drive hard & shoot @ 1000m.

You're a big shooter too? I do a lot of that as well. 100 yard sporters mainly but my cousin shoots a lot of 1000 yard stuff. The break in on barrels is almost as controversial as engines. Lol

Happy_Dan · 04-01-2012, 08:49 PM

How do you break in a barrel, I just shoot, didn't even know there was a break in for rifle barrels.

FBODYMAN · 04-01-2012, 09:07 PM

I don't if any of us are going to be able to follow the break in as mentioned. I know most will want to but come on.. when you get into your 580HP beast are you really going to be able to resist. I doubt it..lol..

kbar4782 · 04-01-2012, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy_Dan

How do you break in a barrel, I just shoot, didn't even know there was a break in for rifle barrels.

Oh yeah. Like I said. This is highly controversial as well. I know a lot of bench rest guys that just shoot them to break them in and say if they are lapped correctly you won't have any problems. Look it up on the Internet and you will see what I am talking about. Some of the guys are real fanatics about it and claim that if you don't break it in properly you will have a barrel that will foul very easily for the life of it

Lonny Doyle · 04-01-2012, 09:29 PM

Maybe we all need to find some tree huggers to break our cars in for us, they will be too worried about the environment to stand in the gas.

The problem is I think they may all convert from tree hugger to motor head after driving something with a little more pep than a Prius.

kbar4782 · 04-02-2012, 05:57 AM

04-01-2012, 04:17 PM	#35
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04-01-2012, 09:29 PM	#41
Lonny Doyle Aerospace Machinist Drives: 2012 Victory Red ZL1 w/ ECF Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Red Oak,Texas Posts: 67	Maybe we all need to find some tree huggers to break our cars in for us, they will be too worried about the environment to stand in the gas. The problem is I think they may all convert from tree hugger to motor head after driving something with a little more pep than a Prius. Last edited by Lonny Doyle; 04-02-2012 at 06:51 AM.

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04-01-2012, 07:42 AM	#29
Lonny Doyle Aerospace Machinist Drives: 2012 Victory Red ZL1 w/ ECF Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Red Oak,Texas Posts: 67	It is amazing that OEMs have spent billions of dollars over the last 130 years designing engines, testing, measuring exhaust gas contamination, meeting increasingly tighter EPA restrictions about oil control, tearing apart countless engines for inspection at different time periods and none of them can figure out that you should be going wide open throttle after just a few Dyno pulls. The Zl1 is a work of art, GM created this work of art, they know more about it than anyone. I personally have a hard time believing that Motoman knows more about care of the ZL1 during break in than GM.

04-01-2012, 08:06 AM	#30
kbar4782 Drives: 2012 ZL1, 00016 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whitesville, NY Posts: 265	I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just said that both of you guys make sense. I have seen stock racing four wheelers that were broken in differently and there was a huge difference in how they ran. I also have many close friends that race dirt track with 20-30k motors and they don't go through a 1500 mile break in period. This is a good topic. The way I took the information on the link is you don't beat on the engine. You don't run high rpms so I don't really see the problem with it. The recommended break in is similar in that you aren't supposed to maintain a certain speed or rpms. Jmo

04-01-2012, 08:14 AM	#31
Happy_Dan Happy_Dan Drives: 2012 IOM Camaro ZL1 #569 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Boston, NH Posts: 2,239	Racing engines are really different. You EXPECT to rebuild them after relatively low mileage. You want this one to last a couple of hundred thousand!

04-01-2012, 10:09 AM	#33
kbar4782 Drives: 2012 ZL1, 00016 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whitesville, NY Posts: 265	Maybe you plan on putting 200k on your Z, but not me! Lol

04-01-2012, 04:34 PM	#36
stymie Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: KC, MO Posts: 438	I'd break the ZL1 in just like the CHEVY factory manual states before unleashing HELL at 1.5K miles. The whole point is to avoid ABUSING the machine while the components seat. I'm kind of a fanatic when it comes to breaking in a precision rifle barrel too. It may seem like voodoo to some folks, but it has ALWAYS worked for me & other friends who drive hard & shoot @ 1000m.

04-01-2012, 08:49 PM	#38
Happy_Dan Happy_Dan Drives: 2012 IOM Camaro ZL1 #569 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Boston, NH Posts: 2,239	How do you break in a barrel, I just shoot, didn't even know there was a break in for rifle barrels.

04-01-2012, 09:07 PM	#39
FBODYMAN Drives: CAMARO CUSTOMS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: DALLAS Posts: 25 View My Garage	I don't if any of us are going to be able to follow the break in as mentioned. I know most will want to but come on.. when you get into your 580HP beast are you really going to be able to resist. I doubt it..lol..

04-02-2012, 05:57 AM	#42
kbar4782 Drives: 2012 ZL1, 00016 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Whitesville, NY Posts: 265