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Supercharged SS · 08-14-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Allanski

From your first post
"They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found."

Could this happen with a meth injection too?
or not because the meth is not mixed directly with fuel?

Good question. I don't have the answer though. I would think it would pack up but maybe not blow up. My nitrous is dry, no fuel mixed in. The tune provides the extra fuel.

Adadda · 08-14-2013, 07:42 PM

Don't take this the wrong way but everyone seems to be blaming the nitrous for the problem, but how it was used was the problem. Just don't want anyone thinking that nitrous is un safe or will cause the same problems. As a power adder dollar for dollar it can't be beat.

Supercharged SS · 08-14-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Adadda

Don't take this the wrong way but everyone seems to be blaming the nitrous for the problem, but how it was used was the problem. Just don't want anyone thinking that nitrous is un safe or will cause the same problems. As a power adder dollar for dollar it can't be beat.

Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

Shit happens. All you can do is fix it and keep going.

Adadda · 08-14-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

Shit happens. All you can do is fix it and keep going.

125. To start lol I bet you end up with just a little more
Lets get that thing back together before October

Supercharged SS · 08-14-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Adadda

125. To start lol I bet you end up with just a little more
Lets get that thing back together before October

I'm hoping to be on the track on Sept 6!!!!!!

Whats a JRE rental without my car!

jrpxxii · 08-14-2013, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allanski

From your first post
"They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found."

Could this happen with a meth injection too?
or not because the meth is not mixed directly with fuel?

Yes this can happen with meth but not for the same reason as Jamies engine could have been a lot worse as nitrous could have blown the block apart but meth can cause issues if its not tuned properly or their is a malfunction with the controller as it will allow temps to spike. I had meth with my tvs2300 on my first setup and the controller went bad and so did the motor. Meth is different as it should be tuned for the cooling factor which will add power but most people think you can add meth and get aggressive with the tune but if anything goes wrong it can be catastrophic. Nitrous is the cheapest hp out there and is very safe if it used properly but can do serious damage if you don't know how to use it.

jrpxxii · 08-14-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Whats a JRE rental without my car!

Probably a lot more fun

Supercharged SS · 08-14-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Probably a lot more fun

No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!

jrpxxii · 08-14-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!

Whatever happen to big ole lemon Ted built? aka "Ray"

rdblan2 · 08-14-2013, 08:12 PM

You should track the rental!

Chris82xx · 08-14-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

No no no. There needs to be at least one fast car!

So then your car won't be there.

Supercharged SS · 08-15-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jrpxxii

Whatever happen to big ole lemon Ted built? aka "Ray"

He's around. Just at cruise nights, not racing. Maybe in sept.

calbert1999 · 08-15-2013, 12:41 PM

We've been there before man, it's like a line up 1st. 2nd., 3rd., .... it's just a matter of time that's all.

Gotthat02fire · 08-15-2013, 01:03 PM

What are you running now suspension wise and what are you moving to? That piston had a really bad day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Nitrous did the damage but wasn't what started it. The excessive wheel spin did. That put everything in motion. Then the TB closed. Then the nitrous packed up, then the TB re-opened, then a shitload of nitrous entered the first low pressure area it found and melted the piston.

I have no problem with nitrous. I'll be spraying a buck twentyfive next time out. This time I'll have a whole new suspension under the car as well in hopes to eliminate the awful spinning.

Shit happens. All you can do is fix it and keep going.

08-14-2013, 08:12 PM	#66
rdblan2 Drives: 2SS RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: MD Posts: 1,272	You should track the rental! __________________ Livernois 2C cam and tune, LS3 conversion, Roto-Fab intake, Kooks headers, DSS driveshaft and axles, BMR suspension parts, VMax ported throttle body, Whipple blower. (623hp).

08-14-2013, 07:42 PM	#58
Adadda Drives: 2012 Camaro SS. L99 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Panama City FL Posts: 113	Don't take this the wrong way but everyone seems to be blaming the nitrous for the problem, but how it was used was the problem. Just don't want anyone thinking that nitrous is un safe or will cause the same problems. As a power adder dollar for dollar it can't be beat.

08-15-2013, 12:41 PM	#69
calbert1999 Camaro SS Lover Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Black IOM Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,863	We've been there before man, it's like a line up 1st. 2nd., 3rd., .... it's just a matter of time that's all.