Help me beat Mustangs with my 1LE Part 2

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

I agree with you but a guy I was running with last Tuesday (6M SS) had 20" 555Rs and was getting 1.8 60s. So it's still me. What did you go with? ET Streets or NT05Rs? How much did your 60' improve?

Was he running an automatic car? I was running 12:40s-12:50s with the 555Rs, I then switched to the NT05Rs and got into the 12:20s, 60' times went from the 2:00s with the 555s on the stock 20" wheels, to 1:85s with the NT05Rs on 18" wheels changing nothing else. I think it could have gone faster but I broke an axle the next time out, then smoked the clutch the following time, replaced that with a POS aftermarket clutch, at that point I gave up. I think the M/T DR is even better than the NT05Rs.

[Padre]

Mickey Thompsons.

Padre

[Pro Stock John]

If you only run the tires at the track I would get slicks or ET Streets (if they make the latter in a 17).

[etmx183]

I run the Mickey Thompson 305/20 ET Street D/Rs and get 1.63 - 1.65 60' with them mounted on the stock rims with 30 PSI. I also have BMR suspension in the car and I'm a automatic V6 on nitrous.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Was he running an automatic car? I was running 12:40s-12:50s with the 555Rs, I then switched to the NT05Rs and got into the 12:20s, 60' times went from the 2:00s with the 555s on the stock 20" wheels, to 1:85s with the NT05Rs on 18" wheels changing nothing else. I think it could have gone faster but I broke an axle the next time out, then smoked the clutch the following time, replaced that with a POS aftermarket clutch, at that point I gave up. I think the M/T DR is even better than the NT05Rs.

He was 6M LS3. NT05Rs will help me I think.

Originally Posted by Padre

Mickey Thompsons.

Padre

Originally Posted by etmx183

I run the Mickey Thompson 305/20 ET Street D/Rs and get 1.63 - 1.65 60' with them mounted on the stock rims with 30 PSI. I also have BMR suspension in the car and I'm a automatic V6 on nitrous.

Yes, NT05Rs or MTs will be my next drag tire. From all I have read they are both very close.

I still think though my technique can still be improved. That other LS3 SS demonstrated that. Although the SS was not a 1LE.

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

If you only run the tires at the track I would get slicks or ET Streets (if they make the latter in a 17).

I will stick with the 18's unless a sick deal on Welds comes my way. But I can dream.

Love the look of DRs on a 1LE:

[JOHNSONROD]

take that ride to a RC and you can beat up mustangs at will.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by JOHNSONROD

take that ride to a RC and you can beat up mustangs at will.

So true, but that's too easy, like roping a horse in a barrel.

I will be going back to my local RC, NJ Motorsports Park, next year and Autocross too. I just got obsessed with drag racing for now, it's all out and such a bargain. I do not think I will ever be in a situation where I can be all out on a road course. And without more instruction it would not be a good thing.

I am going back to Atco tomorrow night to try again. The Guy I raced with last week who has the hang of DRs on his SS says I need to do a street launch instead of a high RPM clutch killer. A key point though is if the track staff cones off the slick groove for T&T street cars.

Over on the 1LE forum a 1LE owner just broke an axle. This has me a bit worried, but I guess then it will be time for stronger axles. I wonder if they will fit a 1LE with the mixture of SS and ZL1 parts.

[Pro Stock John]

Where in South Jersey, I lived in Pleasantville by Atlantic City until I was 8. Still have a lot of family back there.

[Bad70supreme]

You should be able to run 1.8 60fts on 555rs. I ran many 1.87-89 60s on my stock tires! The stickier tire might actually hurt you for a wile as it did me. I only made 2 outings on my 18" nto5s but I actually ran slower! The sticky tire made it harder to launch the car and not bogg the engine down. My second time out I matched my 1.8s by being VERY agressive with a best of 1.83 but blew the run as I have having trans issues! Keep practicing on the 555rs and you'll get better.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Where in South Jersey, I lived in Pleasantville by Atlantic City until I was 8. Still have a lot of family back there.

Pitman, but growing up I spent a lot of time on the Mullica River and Egg harbor where my Dad's family is from. Not too far from where you grew up. I still go there often to help out my elderly uncle. He should not be living alone, but he does exactly what he wants. Respect his courage.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

You should be able to run 1.8 60fts on 555rs. I ran many 1.87-89 60s on my stock tires! The stickier tire might actually hurt you for a wile as it did me. I only made 2 outings on my 18" nto5s but I actually ran slower! The sticky tire made it harder to launch the car and not bogg the engine down. My second time out I matched my 1.8s by being VERY agressive with a best of 1.83 but blew the run as I have having trans issues! Keep practicing on the 555rs and you'll get better.

Wow nice runs on the Pirellis. I was only able to get 1.9s on my old SS with Pirellis. So far I have not been able to match my best in my 1LE even with DRs.

It must be me. I will keep trying. Man, don't you hate it when you get a nice 60' and then miss a gear? No problem for autos. But I think it's the challenge that keeps me going. My friend finally just hit 11s with his lightly modded GT Mustang (I can't beat his Mustang, even red-lighting) and now he might not come as often. He hit a .000 light on his last run on Tuesday. Luckily, I still have a way to go before I hit my target.

[Bad70supreme]

I was so upset after that run I left the track! This car has been fighting me for way to long an took the fun out of it. I was having constant problems with my 6 speed, when it recently trashed the throwout bearing I threw in the towel! I love this car though, that's why decided to stick with it and swap the trans. If my M6 worked properly I would have loved to stick with it, I just could not justify the money it would cost to run it how I want.

If I were you, I would put a even steeper gear in it instead of trying new tires. Once they are worn then get some mickys or nto5s. I would put a 4.33 in that thing, it will be much easier to keep the car in its power band out of the hole! It won't take as much RPM to launch the car and you already have to shift 4th so might as well make it worth it! I think you would see a solid 3 tenths easy with just a gear.

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I was so upset after that run I left the track! This car has been fighting me for way to long an took the fun out of it. I was having constant problems with my 6 speed, when it recently trashed the throwout bearing I threw in the towel! I love this car though, that's why decided to stick with it and swap the trans. If my M6 worked properly I would have loved to stick with it, I just could not justify the money it would cost to run it how I want.

If I were you, I would put a even steeper gear in it instead of trying new tires. Once they are worn then get some mickys or nto5s. I would put a 4.33 in that thing, it will be much easier to keep the car in its power band out of the hole! It won't take as much RPM to launch the car and you already have to shift 4th so might as well make it worth it! I think you would see a solid 3 tenths easy with just a gear.

Holy cow, 3 tenths you think?

[Bad70supreme]

Yes I do, it's a heavy car with a small block. The factory really under geared this car as far as drag performance goes. When a car bogs the engine down at a 4k launch it's for one reason, not enough gear. That's why there is only that small window to get a good launch..these cars bog or spin! With the right gear a 4k launch should get this car moving hard off the line, the gear will compensate for the wieght and keep that motor in its sweet spot instead of pulling it down.