Anyway to make Onstar not choose bad routes? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

intensifi · 05-22-2014, 03:46 PM

My son and I are going to Santa Barbara from a starting point in Northern California late at night.

Instead of staying on 101, OnStar wants us to take highway 154.

On the map this looks shorter. But in reality it is a winding, unlit, 2-lane mountain road that takes you up the mountain to Lake Cachuma and then back down into Santa Barbara.

I would think OnStar would be smarter than this.

If I hadn't been awake, my son would have probably followed OnStar's advice and added significant time and safety issues to our journey.

Any ideas?

John E · 05-22-2014, 03:53 PM

Map Quest, you can campare routes, as for scenery? Short answer I have no clue about onstar.

PalmerGA · 05-22-2014, 04:09 PM

OnStar navigation sucks. End of story.

rscheff3 · 05-22-2014, 04:27 PM

Maybe it knows you have a Camaro and it was trying to get you to take the fun route.

Aside from that who knows, I always use google maps on my phone.

KaBoom1701 · 05-22-2014, 04:27 PM

Hey Jeff,

Try eNav

Using eNav
eNav(4) lets you plan your route ahead of time on Mapquest.com and send it to your vehicle with one click. Store up to five destinations, and retrieve them from your vehicle whenever you want and get up-to-the-minute Turn-by-Turn directions.
• Once you have reached your first destination, you can retrieve your next destination by pressing the Hands-Free Calling/Voice Command button and saying “Virtual Advisor,” then follow the prompts.
• To remove a destination downloaded to your vehicle, push your Hands-Free Calling button and say “Cancel route.
• If eNav is temporarily unavailable, push your blue button to request a route. Turn-by-Turn Navigation is included with a Directions & Connections plan subscription, and OnStar Advisors are always available for you.

http://www.onstarconnections.com/201...-and-commands/

https://www.onstar.com/web/portal/enavoverview?g=1#

Scalded Dog · 05-22-2014, 04:30 PM

GPS units send you to locations that don't exist. OnStar picks wacky routes. Other nav systems deny that actual addresses even exist.

Electronic vehicle navigation systems are great, about 80% of the time. In order to compensate for the 20% where they are completely and utterly un-great, I use an old- fashioned map (or, a few online, because even MapQuest is sometimes WAAAAAY wrong) for EVERY route. Since I am going to check a map no matter what, I've pretty much given up on electronic navigation.

(I do use a GPS for a lot of off- road/ hiking/ outdoor applications... but for any place that I need directions to drive, it's a map only for me... I hope that technology will catch up someday, and that electronic road nav will be more like 98% effective, but for now, no thanks.)

Cheveey57 · 05-22-2014, 04:57 PM

Waze it's a free app and is the best.

KaBoom1701 · 05-22-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57

Waze it's a free app and is the best.

Does it use the HUD built into the car for hands free driving?

intensifi · 05-22-2014, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Hey Jeff,

Try eNav

Using eNav
eNav(4) lets you plan your route ahead of time on Mapquest.com and send it to your vehicle with one click. Store up to five destinations, and retrieve them from your vehicle whenever you want and get up-to-the-minute Turn-by-Turn directions.
• Once you have reached your first destination, you can retrieve your next destination by pressing the Hands-Free Calling/Voice Command button and saying “Virtual Advisor,” then follow the prompts.
• To remove a destination downloaded to your vehicle, push your Hands-Free Calling button and say “Cancel route.
• If eNav is temporarily unavailable, push your blue button to request a route. Turn-by-Turn Navigation is included with a Directions & Connections plan subscription, and OnStar Advisors are always available for you.

http://www.onstarconnections.com/201...-and-commands/

https://www.onstar.com/web/portal/enavoverview?g=1#

Thanks!

This sounds good for when I remember to plan ahead.

I do like just pressing the button on the mirror though.

Rock-It Man · 05-22-2014, 05:22 PM

Use Waze or other smartphone app that lets you modify the routing criteria.

ssrs2lt · 05-22-2014, 05:35 PM

yes don't use on star..lol..I travel a ton, use gps and printed directions..

SlingShot · 05-22-2014, 05:50 PM

Just go past the road you don't want to take, and Onstar will recalculate route.

ChrisBlair · 05-22-2014, 06:27 PM

Current road atlas

Austin45 · 05-22-2014, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intensifi

it is a winding, unlit, 2-lane mountain road that takes you up the mountain

That's bad because?

05-22-2014, 03:46 PM	#1
intensifi Drives: '12 2LT Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belmont, California Posts: 1,701	Anyway to make Onstar not choose bad routes? My son and I are going to Santa Barbara from a starting point in Northern California late at night. Instead of staying on 101, OnStar wants us to take highway 154. On the map this looks shorter. But in reality it is a winding, unlit, 2-lane mountain road that takes you up the mountain to Lake Cachuma and then back down into Santa Barbara. I would think OnStar would be smarter than this. If I hadn't been awake, my son would have probably followed OnStar's advice and added significant time and safety issues to our journey. Any ideas? Attached Images __________________ Mods: GM Locking Gas Cap, RS License Plate Frame, SS Brembos, ZL1 FrontEnd, 14/15 Convertible Top Last edited by intensifi; 05-22-2014 at 06:50 PM.

05-22-2014, 04:09 PM	#3
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,755 View My Garage	OnStar navigation sucks. End of story. __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

05-22-2014, 04:27 PM	#5
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Hey Jeff, Try eNav Using eNav eNav(4) lets you plan your route ahead of time on Mapquest.com and send it to your vehicle with one click. Store up to five destinations, and retrieve them from your vehicle whenever you want and get up-to-the-minute Turn-by-Turn directions. • Once you have reached your first destination, you can retrieve your next destination by pressing the Hands-Free Calling/Voice Command button and saying “Virtual Advisor,” then follow the prompts. • To remove a destination downloaded to your vehicle, push your Hands-Free Calling button and say “Cancel route. • If eNav is temporarily unavailable, push your blue button to request a route. Turn-by-Turn Navigation is included with a Directions & Connections plan subscription, and OnStar Advisors are always available for you. http://www.onstarconnections.com/201...-and-commands/ https://www.onstar.com/web/portal/enavoverview?g=1# __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

05-22-2014, 04:57 PM	#7
Cheveey57 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,425	Waze it's a free app and is the best. __________________ If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

05-22-2014, 05:50 PM	#12
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	Just go past the road you don't want to take, and Onstar will recalculate route. __________________

05-22-2014, 03:53 PM	#2
John E Drives: 2014 2SS rs 6M Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 168	Map Quest, you can campare routes, as for scenery? Short answer I have no clue about onstar.

05-22-2014, 04:27 PM	#4
rscheff3 Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS, 97 Wrangler Sport Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 38	Maybe it knows you have a Camaro and it was trying to get you to take the fun route. Aside from that who knows, I always use google maps on my phone.

05-22-2014, 04:30 PM	#6
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	GPS units send you to locations that don't exist. OnStar picks wacky routes. Other nav systems deny that actual addresses even exist. Electronic vehicle navigation systems are great, about 80% of the time. In order to compensate for the 20% where they are completely and utterly un-great, I use an old- fashioned map (or, a few online, because even MapQuest is sometimes WAAAAAY wrong) for EVERY route. Since I am going to check a map no matter what, I've pretty much given up on electronic navigation. (I do use a GPS for a lot of off- road/ hiking/ outdoor applications... but for any place that I need directions to drive, it's a map only for me... I hope that technology will catch up someday, and that electronic road nav will be more like 98% effective, but for now, no thanks.)

05-22-2014, 05:22 PM	#10
Rock-It Man 376 cubic inches of fun Drives: 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: MA Posts: 4,033 View My Garage	Use Waze or other smartphone app that lets you modify the routing criteria.

05-22-2014, 05:35 PM	#11
ssrs2lt Drives: too many Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: oh va pa ma tx Posts: 3,046	yes don't use on star..lol..I travel a ton, use gps and printed directions..

05-22-2014, 06:27 PM	#13
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	Current road atlas __________________