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djsnoflake · 05-23-2009, 12:19 PM

The title of this thread made me literally say out loud, "well, duh....... of course it does."

PS: In before close!

Thrillz · 05-23-2009, 12:28 PM

GT500 vs camaro ss is a retarded comparison. Wait till they make the Z28 with a supercharger then its a fair fight. Thats like going to a gun fight with a knife. Your not fully armed and ready yet.

*DGthe3* · 05-23-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fdjizm

The amount of mis-information about any other car on this board is mind blowing lol do people just makes things up?

Yes, they do. Such as those that make posts which lead people into thinking that a DOHC supercharged ironblock might somehow be lighter than an all aluminum pushrod design. By the way, the 5.4 comes in at roughly 600 lbs, the 4.6L from the mustang or the LS3 weigh a little over 400 lbs. I bring this up because ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdjizm

a lighter smaller engine with a supercharger is more practical than a big giant engine with horsepower... who cant just make a huge engine? anyone can do that.

By the way, anyone can make lots of power with forced induction too ... 1000 hp 2.0L's ecotecs exist briefly

Rock36 · 05-24-2009, 04:42 AM

I still don't really get why having a supercharger on a lower displacement engine is unfair....as if having an extra 0.8 liters was somehow fair.

If you wanted fair, you would need two identical displacement engines with the same basic setup. Then it would be a matter of who could design the best flowing heads/intake, who had the best camshaft grinds, and who had the most optimal bore/stroke while maintaining the same displacement. Then we could approach the concept of fair.

Besides, what about all the people who think the new Caddy CTS-V and Corvette ZR-1 are so bada$$? They are compared to N/A BMW M5s, and N/A Exotics respectfully.... is it unfair for these two GM creations to run F/I while some of their direct competition does not? The answer is simply "No".

I'm with a few others, price and market segment is the main factor for comparison. While the Mustang GT500 does outprice the Camaro SS significantly, the two cars share a large part of the same target market.

vega$ · 05-24-2009, 05:11 AM

this is getting pathetic and old.

garagelogic · 05-24-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vega$

this is getting pathetic and old.

Yet you continue to visit/read the thread and make posts in it? Methinks thou doth protest too much.

K-A · 05-24-2009, 07:33 PM

You guys are hilarious. These arguments are just priceless.

KatarHol · 05-24-2009, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock36

I still don't really get why having a supercharger on a lower displacement engine is unfair....as if having an extra 0.8 liters was somehow fair.

If you wanted fair, you would need two identical displacement engines with the same basic setup. Then it would be a matter of who could design the best flowing heads/intake, who had the best camshaft grinds, and who had the most optimal bore/stroke while maintaining the same displacement. Then we could approach the concept of fair.

1969 was as close to fair as it will ever get. Boss 302 vs Z28.

Rock36 · 05-25-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KatarHol

1969 was as close to fair as it will ever get. Boss 302 vs Z28.

double

hardestgainer · 05-25-2009, 05:50 PM

I dont know where you guys get your prices, to get a camaro ss to have the same features as a gt500 it costs 36k well you can pick up an 09 gt500 for 38-40k. that wil give you an engine that can handle over 1000hp without any issues, how much can the camaro handle before it blows? Or you can get a 10 gt500 for below msrp at almost any dealer, some even at invoice. I think its time everyone just accepts now matter how you look at it.....

GT500>Camaro SS

Speed74SS · 05-25-2009, 06:33 PM

Or you can pick up a new camaro for 35K and put a blower on it and be between
42-45K. Problem solved if you are looking for a daily driver that puts out 550 to the wheels.

Ninjak · 05-25-2009, 07:45 PM

Man your not getting a Camaro..well not at least in S.FLA for 35k anytime soon. I have seen them with 53k price tags after the Market Value Pricing Markup BS.

Speed74SS · 05-25-2009, 09:27 PM

Umm - I preordered my 2SS/RS and it came to 35K. I had a dealer in town here try to sell me one for 45K but I found a dealership 4 hours away for MSRP. Karl Chevrolet in Iowa.

Ninjak · 05-25-2009, 10:40 PM

well not at least in S.FLA

Bolded so you understand that W. Palm, Ft Lauderdale and Miami is not Iowa.

Also note you drove 4 hours to get a deal. That's just not right. Hell I would be driving dam near to Jacksonville or at least Orlando or Tampa...just to buy a car ????

05-24-2009, 04:42 AM	#144
Rock36 I just like V8s Drives: 2007 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 919	I still don't really get why having a supercharger on a lower displacement engine is unfair....as if having an extra 0.8 liters was somehow fair. If you wanted fair, you would need two identical displacement engines with the same basic setup. Then it would be a matter of who could design the best flowing heads/intake, who had the best camshaft grinds, and who had the most optimal bore/stroke while maintaining the same displacement. Then we could approach the concept of fair. Besides, what about all the people who think the new Caddy CTS-V and Corvette ZR-1 are so bada$$? They are compared to N/A BMW M5s, and N/A Exotics respectfully.... is it unfair for these two GM creations to run F/I while some of their direct competition does not? The answer is simply "No". I'm with a few others, price and market segment is the main factor for comparison. While the Mustang GT500 does outprice the Camaro SS significantly, the two cars share a large part of the same target market. __________________ "Anyone know who sells the driver mods?" 2007 Corvette Z06: Le Mans blue, 2LZ Last edited by Rock36; 05-24-2009 at 05:02 AM.

05-24-2009, 07:33 PM	#147
K-A Drives: M-B E350 AMG Sport / '09 Malibu Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: California Posts: 44	You guys are hilarious. These arguments are just priceless. __________________ '13 F10 BMW 535i ///M Sport : Jet Black/Black-Anthracite : Premium & Technology Packages/Sport Auto Trans/Camera/Park Distance Control/Heated Seats/Tinted Windows/Blacked Out Markers/Performance Spoiler.

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05-23-2009, 12:28 PM	#142
Thrillz Drives: 2019 Dodge Daytona R/T Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,572	GT500 vs camaro ss is a retarded comparison. Wait till they make the Z28 with a supercharger then its a fair fight. Thats like going to a gun fight with a knife. Your not fully armed and ready yet.

05-24-2009, 05:11 AM	#145
vega$ Dreaming Big! Drives: 06 Silverado CC 4x4 5.3L Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 143	this is getting pathetic and old.

05-25-2009, 05:50 PM	#150
hardestgainer Drives: American muscle Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boise Posts: 35	I dont know where you guys get your prices, to get a camaro ss to have the same features as a gt500 it costs 36k well you can pick up an 09 gt500 for 38-40k. that wil give you an engine that can handle over 1000hp without any issues, how much can the camaro handle before it blows? Or you can get a 10 gt500 for below msrp at almost any dealer, some even at invoice. I think its time everyone just accepts now matter how you look at it..... GT500>Camaro SS

05-25-2009, 06:33 PM	#151
Speed74SS Drives: 2010 LPE 650+ CTS-V Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,640	Or you can pick up a new camaro for 35K and put a blower on it and be between 42-45K. Problem solved if you are looking for a daily driver that puts out 550 to the wheels.

05-25-2009, 07:45 PM	#152
Ninjak Banned Drives: 08 GT Mustang \| 65 GT Notchbac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 819	Man your not getting a Camaro..well not at least in S.FLA for 35k anytime soon. I have seen them with 53k price tags after the Market Value Pricing Markup BS.

05-25-2009, 09:27 PM	#153
Speed74SS Drives: 2010 LPE 650+ CTS-V Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,640	Umm - I preordered my 2SS/RS and it came to 35K. I had a dealer in town here try to sell me one for 45K but I found a dealership 4 hours away for MSRP. Karl Chevrolet in Iowa.

05-25-2009, 10:40 PM	#154
Ninjak Banned Drives: 08 GT Mustang \| 65 GT Notchbac Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 819	well not at least in S.FLA Bolded so you understand that W. Palm, Ft Lauderdale and Miami is not Iowa. Also note you drove 4 hours to get a deal. That's just not right. Hell I would be driving dam near to Jacksonville or at least Orlando or Tampa...just to buy a car ????