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Old 10-26-2010, 12:23 PM   #169
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for 2012 a hp increase may look good on paper but really does noting for the camaro enthusiast, what gm needs to do is offer real performance parts, give us cold air intakes headers, superchargers, cams, suspension upgrades, gears, with warranty and sell then as packages, what people want is OME quality and warranty. This increase in hp is worthless, because Ford can do the same plus they offer real performance parts with some warranty.


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It is blatantly obvious that you are incorrect and are unwilling to recognize a botched run against your clean run. Your car is much slower than a 5.0 or 2010 GT.

Post the timeslips you are talking about.
Why don't you two take this to the mega mustang thread?
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:48 PM   #170
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It is blatantly obvious that you are incorrect and are unwilling to recognize a botched run against your clean run. Your car is much slower than a 5.0 or 2010 GT.

Post the timeslips you are talking about.
He said a win is a win....thus he recognized the botched run. Read carefully.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:49 PM   #171
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for 2012 a hp increase may look good on paper but really does noting for the camaro enthusiast, what gm needs to do is offer real performance parts, give us cold air intakes headers, superchargers, cams, suspension upgrades, gears, with warranty and sell then as packages, what people want is OME quality and warranty. This increase in hp is worthless, because Ford can do the same plus they offer real performance parts with some warranty.
Amen brotha.
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:05 PM   #172
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He said a win is a win....thus he recognized the botched run. Read carefully.
No, he did not. There was no talk of driver skill or mistakes.

He also goes on to say 'The cars are worthless unless they are upgraded right from the factory!' which is another false statement.
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:07 PM   #173
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Though I'm seven pages late -- I really don't think the SS "needs" a power bump...but heck, I'm not gonna say no!
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:30 PM   #174
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He said a win is a win....thus he recognized the botched run. Read carefully.


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No, he did not. There was no talk of driver skill or mistakes.

He also goes on to say 'The cars are worthless unless they are upgraded right from the factory!' which is another false statement.
Actually I did, if you read carefully I was talking about the factory tires. The mustang DOES NOT hold well on the track with stock tires! That is all I was talking about and a WIN is a WIN! I know the 5.0 on the street would beat me, I'm not stupid, but at the track it couldn't, that is all I was saying! You are getting awfully butt hurt.
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:16 AM   #175
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:52 AM   #176
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I wondered how long it would take Alrox to get in here and dispel these RUMORS. I don't disagree with him though...this could be the Challenger V10 thread re-hashed all over again. I don't really care one way or the other, I have 2011, so any future change likely doesn't mean anything to me.
What if the Mustang had 376 cubic inches remember it only has 302
Credit where credit is due getting that much performance out of
5 litres is an acomplishment. I love my 010 ss/rs but the mustang with it's considerable lighter body would take over.
Chevy has to step up and add a few more ponys I know they can do it
this engine has enormous potential. I hope they don't do what they did with the V6 just add more HP on paper
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:05 AM   #177
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What if the Mustang had 376 cubic inches remember it only has 302
Credit where credit is due getting that much performance out of
5 liters is an accomplishment. I love my 010 ss/rs but the mustang with it's considerable lighter body would take over.
Chevy has to step up and add a few more ponys I know they can do it
this engine has enormous potential. I hope they don't do what they did with the V6 just add more HP on paper
I know that the 5.0 is great engine compared to the modular 4.6 engines before it but you cannot dismiss the technology that went into the LS based engine's that's in the camaro. Yes ford did a good job but they had no choice, seeing as how gm was already promoting the 400 hp plus then concept camaro.

Ford decided over a decade earlier to go with overhead cam small displacement V8 compared to gm's decision to overhead valve cam in block large displacement V8. We all know the LS engines have a high ceiling for mods to achieve high hp reliable without breaking the bank compared to extracting big hp from ohc engines, you can do it but it will cost you much more. With every thing being equal the mustang's only advantage over the camaro is it's lower weight. That will be resolved with the new 6th Gen. alpha based camaro. Power to weight ratio and being able to hook it up will win you races. I've seen a lot of mustangs at the track running LS engines and not mod motors over the years, they must know something. The LS engines are just as world class as the 5.0 engines, we get it done with more cubes instead of multiple valves and multiple cams.

We can easily and very reasonable make more hp but just remember gm will respond. Remember when the camaro back in the day had more power and was faster than the mustang but the mustang sold more car's. Now the camaro has the style and performance and that is why it is selling more.
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2012 Camaro SS Power Bump.

I do not see what all the fuss is all about. Cause from what MOST I have seen, read, heard. Most Camaro owners don't keep one thing stock. So I don't see how a power bump is going to help? And Whether that 5.0 makes the power it makes. It has TWO cams and FOUR valves per cylinder. While the Camaro has... a single cam and only 2 valves per cylinder. Just imagine the trouble Ford would have if GM says "well shoot ford can do it, why cant we?" and the Camaro receives two cams and four valves per cylinder Not saying GM is and would ever do this to the LS family.... But just imagine the sh*t Ford would be barried in.
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I do not see what all the fuss is all about. Cause from what MOST I have seen, read, heard. Most Camaro owners don't keep one thing stock. So I don't see how a power bump is going to help? And Whether that 5.0 makes the power it makes. It has TWO cams and FOUR valves per cylinder. While the Camaro has... a single cam and only 2 valves per cylinder. Just imagine the trouble Ford would have if GM says "well shoot ford can do it, why cant we?" and the Camaro receives two cams and four valves per cylinder Not saying GM is and would ever do this to the LS family.... But just imagine the sh*t Ford would be barried in.
It's rumored that the next gen ls V8's will come in both ohv and dohc versions
and also most importantly direct injection.
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:28 PM   #181
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It's rumored that the next gen ls V8's will come in both ohv and dohc versions
and also most importantly direct injection.
oh sheesh.. ford is done before the battle begun
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:31 PM   #182
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oh sheesh.. ford is done before the battle begun
Number of valves and cams is irrelevant...it all depends on "how you use it".
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