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FaytalsCamaro · 10-19-2013, 11:45 AM

Very curious about this...lets say we have a Camaro cammed with bolt ons pushing 480 to the rear wheels. Who would win in a race, a stock 2013 CTS-V sedan, or the Camaro. What about the CTS-V Coupe?

aggieguy13 · 10-19-2013, 12:42 PM

The V. Hands down

Pro Stock John · 10-19-2013, 12:53 PM

I would hope the Camaro wins the v's are mid to low 12's stock and that Camaro should run in the 11's.

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FaytalsCamaro · 10-19-2013, 01:40 PM

lol split decision. too close to call?

MichaelH · 10-19-2013, 03:16 PM

Camaro should honestly win and pretty easily. A SS making that to the wheels would beat a ZL1 to

Modern07 · 10-19-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelH

Camaro should honestly win and pretty easily. A SS making that to the wheels would beat a ZL1 to

Not necessarily - it 'could' do yes but certainly not easily.

I've beaten more than a few SS's making that and more than that whilst stock.

Now I'm not stock so comparison days are over.

evilstevie · 10-19-2013, 06:19 PM

I was surprised to look up stock cts-v dyno numbers and see so many of them in the 480 - 500 hp range, stock. If the Camaro really was putting 480 to the wheels...then it would probably have a tiny lbs/hp advantage over the V. But unless one of your bolt-ons is a supercharger...480 whp is a pretty big number.

MichaelH · 10-19-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Modern07

Not necessarily - it 'could' do yes but certainly not easily.

I've beaten more than a few SS's making that and more than that whilst stock.

Now I'm not stock so comparison days are over.

Im talking if the guy in the Camaro knows how to drive he should win by a decent margin. I mean I've beaten camed SS to, but with similar power to us the SS has a decent advantage

MichaelH · 10-19-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by evilstevie

I was surprised to look up stock cts-v dyno numbers and see so many of them in the 480 - 500 hp range, stock. If the Camaro really was putting 480 to the wheels...then it would probably have a tiny lbs/hp advantage over the V. But unless one of your bolt-ons is a supercharger...480 whp is a pretty big number.

480 is actually a normal power rating for a cammed 5th gen

Jayrcr3 · 10-19-2013, 06:35 PM

Your going to lose. The V makes loads more torque throughout the rpm range than your cammed LS3.

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FaytalsCamaro · 10-19-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayrcr3

Your going to lose. The V makes loads more torque throughout the rpm range than your cammed LS3.

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i figured its torque would be a bit better across the power band but how does the weight difference make a difference if any?

Bad70supreme · 10-19-2013, 09:43 PM

480 is not avg for a cammed ls3, I would say more like 450-460 to be real. My car put down 440 with a very small cam, runs 12.4-12.3s on stock tires with 115-116 traps in summer heat! So a cammed car putting a real 480, my money is on the cammed car cuz it should be trapping 117-118 easy. The stock Zl1s I see run at the track are normally running around the same times I am with auto's. Dont even get me started on the 6 speed guys, its just sad.

L99CAMA2011 · 10-20-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

480 is not avg for a cammed ls3, I would say more like 450-460 to be real. My car put down 440 with a very small cam, runs 12.4-12.3s on stock tires with 115-116 traps in summer heat! So a cammed car putting a real 480, my money is on the cammed car cuz it should be trapping 117-118 easy. The stock Zl1s I see run at the track are normally running around the same times I am with auto's. Dont even get me started on the 6 speed guys, its just sad.

Then you should be 12 or high 11s with tires. Nice times for a small cam, which cam do you have.

MichaelH · 10-20-2013, 08:23 AM

They must not have good divers by you than lol. I know a lot of guys with a cam in their ls3 getting 470-485 whp. Running high 11s around 120s. The ZL1 by me mine included are trapping 118-119, but than again idk how your da is

10-19-2013, 11:45 AM	#1
FaytalsCamaro Distributor of Liquor Drives: My Wife Crazy Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,698	Cammed Camaro vs CTS-V Very curious about this...lets say we have a Camaro cammed with bolt ons pushing 480 to the rear wheels. Who would win in a race, a stock 2013 CTS-V sedan, or the Camaro. What about the CTS-V Coupe?

10-19-2013, 12:42 PM	#2
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10-19-2013, 12:53 PM	#3
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I would hope the Camaro wins the v's are mid to low 12's stock and that Camaro should run in the 11's. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

10-19-2013, 03:16 PM	#5
MichaelH SOCAL HT5 Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,495 View My Garage	Camaro should honestly win and pretty easily. A SS making that to the wheels would beat a ZL1 to __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works Old vehicles 2010 CGM Camaro (sold) Other Vehicles: 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer 2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras

10-19-2013, 06:35 PM	#10
Jayrcr3 Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chatham, Illinois Posts: 756	Your going to lose. The V makes loads more torque throughout the rpm range than your cammed LS3. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk __________________ American Racing 1 7/8" Headers and Hi-Flow Cats, CAI cold air intake, Flowmaster AT exhaust, Vengeance Racing Stage 2 cam, VMax ported throttle body, TEA valve springs and titanium retainers, Trick Flow hardened pushrods, 180* T-stat, Comp Trunion kit, ZL1 Fuel Pump, ADM Fuel Pump Control Module, 20% window tint, Whipple Supercharger. Tuned by Mike Norris Motorsports. 656rwhp/584rwtq @10 PSI.

10-19-2013, 01:40 PM	#4
FaytalsCamaro Distributor of Liquor Drives: My Wife Crazy Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,698	lol split decision. too close to call?

10-19-2013, 06:19 PM	#7
evilstevie Drives: 2022 RBM 2SS 1le Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CNY Posts: 144	I was surprised to look up stock cts-v dyno numbers and see so many of them in the 480 - 500 hp range, stock. If the Camaro really was putting 480 to the wheels...then it would probably have a tiny lbs/hp advantage over the V. But unless one of your bolt-ons is a supercharger...480 whp is a pretty big number.

10-19-2013, 09:43 PM	#12
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	480 is not avg for a cammed ls3, I would say more like 450-460 to be real. My car put down 440 with a very small cam, runs 12.4-12.3s on stock tires with 115-116 traps in summer heat! So a cammed car putting a real 480, my money is on the cammed car cuz it should be trapping 117-118 easy. The stock Zl1s I see run at the track are normally running around the same times I am with auto's. Dont even get me started on the 6 speed guys, its just sad. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

10-20-2013, 08:23 AM	#14
MichaelH SOCAL HT5 Drives: 2013 BRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,495 View My Garage	They must not have good divers by you than lol. I know a lot of guys with a cam in their ls3 getting 470-485 whp. Running high 11s around 120s. The ZL1 by me mine included are trapping 118-119, but than again idk how your da is __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 - Mods-in the works Old vehicles 2010 CGM Camaro (sold) Other Vehicles: 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R-115 RWHP in mid summer 2006 Chevy Trailblazer SS- For Sale; Lots of extras