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LOWDOWN · 12-27-2011, 11:32 AM

In the beginning, EVERYTHING was an option code. In '67, you started with a Sport Coupe or Convertible...and added anything/everything else.

12337 = 6-Cylinder Sport Coupe
12437 = 327/210 V8 Sport Coupe
12367 = 6-Cylinder Convertible
12467 = 327/210 V8 Convertible
Z21 = Style Trim Group
Z22 = Rally Sport Package
Z23 = Special Interior Group
Z28 = Special Performance Package (NOTE: 4 different option versions...)
SS Package = Engine option codes L48 (350/295hp), L35 (396/325hp), or L78 (396/375hp), which then "forced on" the SS content.

http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...let-Camaro.pdf (pages 50-54)

Oh for those "simple days"...

2cnd chance · 12-27-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

In the beginning, EVERYTHING was an option code. In '67, you started with a Sport Coupe or Convertible...and added anything/everything else.

12337 = 6-Cylinder Sport Coupe
12437 = 327/210 V8 Sport Coupe
12367 = 6-Cylinder Convertible
12467 = 327/210 V8 Convertible
Z21 = Style Trim Group
Z22 = Rally Sport Package
Z23 = Special Interior Group
Z28 = Special Performance Package (NOTE: 4 different option versions...)
SS Package = Engine option codes L48 (350/295hp), L35 (396/325hp), or L78 (396/375hp), which then "forced on" the SS content.

http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...let-Camaro.pdf (pages 50-54)

Oh for those "simple days"...

You forgot Z27.

OldScoolCamaro · 12-27-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

For aero I think the ZL1 front-end, front spoiler, rear spoiler, and side skirts would be perfect given all the hours spent developing them. It will also help spread the cost of the ZL1's development. That being said to differentiate it from the ZL1 I would not use the same hood or grill. The hood as Old School has mentioned should optimize the (dare I say it) LS7's intake. Personally I love the Hot Wheels hood. The grill should be a more flattened design less angled to each side. This should provide better aerodynamics. The grill area should be blacked-out like the Hot Wheels Camaro, along with the tail area.

LS7,... LS7,... LS7....<with cold air inducted hood>

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

In the beginning, EVERYTHING was an option code. In '67, you started with a Sport Coupe or Convertible...and added anything/everything else.

12337 = 6-Cylinder Sport Coupe
12437 = 327/210 V8 Sport Coupe
12367 = 6-Cylinder Convertible
12467 = 327/210 V8 Convertible
Z21 = Style Trim Group
Z22 = Rally Sport Package
Z23 = Special Interior Group
Z28 = Special Performance Package (NOTE: 4 different option versions...)
SS Package = Engine option codes L48 (350/295hp), L35 (396/325hp), or L78 (396/375hp), which then "forced on" the SS content.

http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...let-Camaro.pdf (pages 50-54)

Oh for those "simple days"...

....with high performance muscle options....not forgetting tranny and rear axle upgrades

Mr Twisty · 12-28-2011, 12:50 PM

The new COPO is close to the equivalent 69 ZL1. The new ZL1 is a totally new beast with an old name and nothing historically to compare it to. It's like they took what could be a Z/28 suspension and put it under an SS on steroids.

They're making new history using old names.... and that's fine, I'm getting used to it.

On that premise, here goes nuttin'..... The Jay Leno car could easily be a new Z/28.

2cnd chance · 12-28-2011, 01:38 PM

Not going' V6 until we have to.

Mr Twisty · 12-28-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Not going' V6 until we have to.

A big majority feels that way, that's why I think they didn't do it. I'd like to see an LS7 car, but that's a high dollar motor.

Cam, head, intake and headers on LS3 would be nice.... maybe even de-stroked crank and let it rev

2cnd chance · 12-28-2011, 05:48 PM

The LS7 is expensive, but look what you get. It is a race motor for the street. Hmmm, wouldn't that make for a great Z28 engine?! If output is increased maybe they'll come down in price.

wildpaws · 12-28-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

The new COPO is close to the equivalent 69 ZL1. The new ZL1 is a totally new beast with an old name and nothing historically to compare it to. It's like they took what could be a Z/28 suspension and put it under an SS on steroids.

They're making new history using old names.... and that's fine, I'm getting used to it.

On that premise, here goes nuttin'..... The Jay Leno car could easily be a new Z/28.

Already discussed and dealt with, the new COPO is an NHRA drag race car and does not come anywhere close to being a proper Z/28. A V-6 Z/28, that's something I'm not likely to ever buy, even though at my advanced age I'll likely not have a real chance to buy a Z/28 except late 5th gen or a 6th gen version. If they go V-6, they've lost my sale.
Clyde

Fightinfire921 · 12-28-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wildpaws

Already discussed and dealt with, the new COPO is an NHRA drag race car and does not come anywhere close to being a proper Z/28. A V-6 Z/28, that's something I'm not likely to ever buy, even though at my advanced age I'll likely not have a real chance to buy a Z/28 except late 5th gen or a 6th gen version. If they go V-6, they've lost my sale.
Clyde

Give me that other oar and I'll help paddle the boat.

LOWDOWN · 12-28-2011, 07:12 PM

Leno-look? Sign me up!

V6 twin hair-dryers? Not so much...

wildpaws · 12-28-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Leno-look? Sign me up!

V6 twin hair-dryers? Not so much...

DITTO!!
Clyde

Mr Twisty · 12-29-2011, 03:10 PM

Buncha hard-headed old coots

OldScoolCamaro · 12-29-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Buncha hard-headed old coots

novaracer · 12-30-2011, 08:12 PM

m6 only no auto no sunroof option 19"wheels summer only tires ls3 20deg more intake duration 25 exhaust 116 icl lower engine mounts cnc ported heads zl1 areo pkg some recaros with alloy brackets. fiber glass hood and deck lid as well as std rool up windows. and 3" exhaust muffler bypass with auto setting and driver controlled. fe4 bushings eibach sport line springs and sway bars koni sa shocks covertable strut tower bracing. carbon fiber roof option, back seat option also. has to run 12.2 and pull 1.12g on street tires stop from 60 in 101'

12-27-2011, 11:32 AM	#29
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	In the beginning, EVERYTHING was an option code. In '67, you started with a Sport Coupe or Convertible...and added anything/everything else. 12337 = 6-Cylinder Sport Coupe 12437 = 327/210 V8 Sport Coupe 12367 = 6-Cylinder Convertible 12467 = 327/210 V8 Convertible Z21 = Style Trim Group Z22 = Rally Sport Package Z23 = Special Interior Group Z28 = Special Performance Package (NOTE: 4 different option versions...) SS Package = Engine option codes L48 (350/295hp), L35 (396/325hp), or L78 (396/375hp), which then "forced on" the SS content. http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...let-Camaro.pdf (pages 50-54) Oh for those "simple days"... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 12-27-2011 at 11:44 AM.

12-28-2011, 12:50 PM	#32
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	The new COPO is close to the equivalent 69 ZL1. The new ZL1 is a totally new beast with an old name and nothing historically to compare it to. It's like they took what could be a Z/28 suspension and put it under an SS on steroids. They're making new history using old names.... and that's fine, I'm getting used to it. On that premise, here goes nuttin'..... The Jay Leno car could easily be a new Z/28. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

12-29-2011, 03:10 PM	#40
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,707	Buncha hard-headed old coots __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

12-30-2011, 08:12 PM	#42
novaracer Drives: 08 vue xr Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: ypsilanti mi Posts: 2	m6 only no auto no sunroof option 19"wheels summer only tires ls3 20deg more intake duration 25 exhaust 116 icl lower engine mounts cnc ported heads zl1 areo pkg some recaros with alloy brackets. fiber glass hood and deck lid as well as std rool up windows. and 3" exhaust muffler bypass with auto setting and driver controlled. fe4 bushings eibach sport line springs and sway bars koni sa shocks covertable strut tower bracing. carbon fiber roof option, back seat option also. has to run 12.2 and pull 1.12g on street tires stop from 60 in 101' Last edited by novaracer; 12-30-2011 at 08:30 PM.

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2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	Not going' V6 until we have to.

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LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Leno-look? Sign me up! V6 twin hair-dryers? Not so much...