STS TURBO the only way to go.

[Wm Holden]

If i want an STS I only needs teh hack saw and I'm in teh gamez....right?

A guy on ls2gto did a home install on the tailpipe and put down some good numbers...for about 2300 total....of course he blew up the motor mid project...I think he only spent 4 or 5 hundred more on bearings....

I just don't trust my money hanging off the back of the car like ricer bait.




By the way...I don't call a 12 foot oil line to the back of the car.."simple"...just me I guess.....

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I'd need to see comparable dyno results for this to be worthy of any further investigation. Prove to me that this is legit before I consider it.

they've been out for years and they do provide decent power. their kits are just like the OP said, to make you faster than Mr. Jones down the street, not faster than every car out there.

ive got a few friends with them on their cars and they do work well. im a positive displacement type of guy to begin with, but they STS does have some reputable systems

Originally Posted by fazm

i see an STS 4th gen SS about everyday, and im not impressed at all. when he goes WOT it seems to take forever to spool, also sounds pretty raspy

LS1 or LT1?

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

If i want an STS I only needs teh hack saw and I'm in teh gamez....right?

LMAO!

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

I just don't trust my money hanging off the back of the car like ricer bait.

dunno what you mean by ricer bait... most of the systems tuck in nicely, and unless you know what you are looking for, you dont notice it till they punch the gas.

but im more worried about cold wet splashing water hitting those nice warm turbos.

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

By the way...I don't call a 12 foot oil line to the back of the car.."simple"...just me I guess.....

that too...lol if i were to run a system like that, id have a stand alone oil system just for the turbos.

just me...

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by SoFlaZ

Stacey David is installing one right now on speed tv (eastern time) on an LS3 corvette. Its a rerun i've seen before and its a MONSTER!

just watched that the other day too.


dyno'd around 600hp or so from a tt setup.

[Wm Holden]

Lotza "stolen" parts on rice mobiles....I can just see some kid trying to fit the STS 6.0 system on his fart can location with a buddies welder and a prayer...

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

Lotza "stolen" parts on rice mobiles....I can just see some kid trying to fit the STS 6.0 system on his fart can location with a buddies welder and a prayer...

AAAAH..... I get ya know....

seeing as how his fart can is held on with JB weld....

[Wm Holden]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

AAAAH..... I get ya know....

seeing as how his fart can is held on with JB weld....

Now you're on board!!

LOL!!

[Chocolate Apocalypse]

I think its more about packaging and price than anything else. Its a pain to to do a front mount in 4th gens because you'll either have to lose AC, move or get a new radiator, use different fans, lose access to plugs, etc. And for a quality kit be prepared to shell out at least 5 grand on the low end. STS kits are a compromise but a pretty good one, if you know how to get the most out of them. For one, no LTs! Stock manifolds or coated and wrapped shorties are the way to go along with coating and wrapping the pipe all the way back to the turbo, gotta keep that heat in. Also, you'll have to run a lower A/R that a front mount so you keep lag to a minimum. However, this may all be moot depending on how much room can be gotten out of the 5th Gen's engine compartment. Twins anyone?

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Advertising? Really? Externally mounted turbo. Fail.

worst idea ever

[MerF]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

worst idea ever

Not at all. For the budget build, it's a great thing. I've seen a great STS kit and I've heard less-impressed customers as well. The point is, for the buck it's pretty nifty...and one long oil line is nothing compared to the design and $$ involved in a header-mounted turbo.

I would consider a kit if the price were right, but I'd be more likely to get in good with a metalworker and get the headers made for a front-mount kit.

[fazm]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

]

LS1 or LT1?

ls1 i believe

Originally Posted by jeremy02

Speaking first hand, I had STS on my 4th gen Trans Am. 402 RWHP with only the kit and supporting fuel upgrades.


It'd kick completely sideways goin into second. I loved it.

are we suppose to be impressed from less than a 100rwhp gain from a turbo? or are you talk about how the kit isnt great.

hell i make more than 400rwhp on a stock 4.0 v6 engine lol.

my 4th gen put over 800 at the wheels, but that was not a stock motor (or even stock displacement) with twin front mounted turbos

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I like STS's simplicity. And I really love the rear-mount design...call me a heretic.

heretic

[Xanthos]

I've done a considerable amount of research into STS (haven't actually used them, but I was thinking about it and I wanted to make an informed decision) and I've found out a couple of things. First, the rear-mount turbo system is really only designed for low boost - 5 to 7 PSI or so - applications. Also, from what I can tell, the best thing to do is buy a universal kit and do all the piping yourself. It kind-of shifts the cheap/fast/reliable scale from more on the cheap end to more on the fast/reliable end. So, no, they aren't a racers turbo kit, but they are quite capable of giving you that extra oomph.
- Xanthos

[jeremy02]

Originally Posted by fazm

are we suppose to be impressed from less than a 100rwhp gain from a turbo? or are you talk about how the kit isnt great.

For the ease and simplicity of the kit...yes.


I could have gotten more out of it. Something was up with the spring in my wastegate so even though I was suppossed to be seeing 5.5 PSI I was only seeing around 4. That extra pound and a half would have done some good.

[fazm]

gotcha, makes more sense then, but not suprised.

the STS camaro that i see everyday goes to the same dyno tuner i do. initially the car came in only making 375rwhp or something like that. ouch