From Fbodfather: Good afternoon, Camaro Comrades, Firebird Friends, and Corvette Cous

[KJS]

Originally Posted by kdoske

lol, thats funny. He is right you need to actually read instead of just posting the poppy cock you hear floating around the media. This is exactly why the media sucks so bad. They say shit, people listen and it gets stuck in their brains. In turn people hear a different truth and it is to late at this point becuase their point of view is already tarnished.

YUP!

[NYCLS3]

Originally Posted by LabRat

Any program, that makes fuel from food, is destined to fail.

Period.

LabRat

Weeeeeeeee!!!!

[Vash]

They are trying to get rid of E85 here in Tejas. Tortilla wars. (sounds like a joke but it's not lol).

In Mexico people buy stack of corn torts on the way home. It's a staple.

I like Hydrogen potential more. We need Nuke and wind to make it with high voltage. There needs to be like a promitory point, a shore to shore chain of Hydrogen stations.

E85 is like rotgut the engines don't last near as long as on good Iraqi or Iranian swill (yes I am spoiled being near a coastal refinery). Maint costs higher than Hydrogen.

[65Elco]

Vash do you know how to speak english. Reading your post was like reading something a 2nd grader wrote!

[Epitaph]

Originally Posted by Zabo

Ditto. The only ones here in Michigan have been the local Meijers stations, and it's a wash either way between unleaded and e85. So for us it's not a matter of availability, but price.

But now since 87 has gone above e85 again, I can see that changing for a few people. The rest are just lemming retards that jumped on the green train for the little badge on the bumper.

The closest E85 station I know of is 60 miles from here. Drive to the station and back...oh wait, it's on a military base...

That's cool and all, but they do need to make more stations, I've seen a number of E85 vehicles around here.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by rolnslo

Did you even read the post without this bias? I don't know about you but I don't eat wood chips and corn stalks, nor do I know anyone that does.

I wonder if it would work with old paper products? Could save the news print industry singlehandedly!

If they can make it use pine needles and grass clippings then I'm gonna be the local Jed Clampett!

Now all we need is a Camaro that runs on that!

[Mason44]

Sounds great and I can't wait for this to happen.

[SnoMoDude600]

You can find an E85 all through out Illinois and Iowa. We are the largest producer of corn. BTW, the ethanol is derived from the oils of the plant that are extracted in order to dry out the corn meal so it can be used as feed for cows and other animals. It does not take corn off of our dinner tables. E85 also has around a 110 octane rating so your 426HP SS will me prob make somewhere closer to 440.

[FxsX24]

this is kinda OT

but if anyone ever tells you that more energy is used to make E85 than it saves is both right and wrong

in the production of ethanol you are using fuel to plant, harvest, transport and refine the grain into ethanol, but once the ethanol is produced the grain is not wasted, for instance corn is used to make ethanol, in the process there is still a byproduct, the corn starch, corn syrup and many others (which are used in almost every food product you can think of) are still remaining to be used in food production. some is used also to feed farm animals too.

the same concept applies for soy based ethanol


damn you snomodude, well now we have two people telling any anti ethanol people what the deal is

[PQ]

I'm a caveman. Give me my V8 and 93 octane gasoline and leave me the hell alone. I'm not a scientist. What will be is what will be. This is the same scientific comunity who argues global warming and can't seem to figure out wether an egg is good for you or not. I hope it's all on the up and up and would obviously support it but every book is written with an opinion one way or the other.

[CWI]

Originally Posted by LabRat

Any program, that makes fuel from food, is destined to fail.

Period.

LabRat

[mutant chicken]

Now if I could just find some E85 for my Tahoe .....

[Jonmalibuss]

Originally Posted by SnoMoDude600

You can find an E85 all through out Illinois and Iowa. We are the largest producer of corn. BTW, the ethanol is derived from the oils of the plant that are extracted in order to dry out the corn meal so it can be used as feed for cows and other animals. It does not take corn off of our dinner tables. E85 also has around a 110 octane rating so your 426HP SS will me prob make somewhere closer to 440.

Turn up the boost on a supercharged application. I was reading through this post wondering if and when someone was going to get to this point! Isn't the application just a different calibration file that the vehicle can switch to when it detects the use of E85? This is kind of a no brainer GM!

[Justin]

This is pretty exciting.