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Old 07-28-2013, 10:27 PM   #99
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dan0617,

Im going to respectfully say that you are probably not understanding some of the things you are reading. The tech info you are providing is no where close to how things are. I want to touch base on this in detail but it is 5.11 pm and we are trying to close shop. I am making this post so that I can find my way back here next week to provide proper technical information and help you understand some of what you may be reading and trying to repeat.

I have not looked at your links but I can tell you.. Don't believe everything you read. Have a great weekend. Talk to you next week. :-)
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:13 AM   #100
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WOW, sh!t is getting crazy, I like it. I get what is being stated in this link and fwiw I can agree with it.
http://www.nitrousforum.com/forums/a...php/t-738.html
And the O2 does reference outside air to the exhaust gas for a lambda value which is then converted to afr, which depends on the stoich that was entered into the wideband meter. So now an oxidizer, N2O, is being added and is not accounted for in the referance air. This means?????? The lambda value is now skewed? It is still measuring the lambda of the outside reference air to exhaust gas. The stoich should not change with the addition of N2O, since it is not a fuel, it just supports/enhances combustion. Going to have to think about this one.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:44 AM   #101
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Pfffft.

Yes a properly installed and tuned nitrous kit will run perfectly.

Then something stupid happens, like a solenoid sticks, or some wiring glitch, or an airlock in the fuel line. Or any one of a hundred things that can go wrong.

Then KABLOOOEY.

That's the problem with nitrous. Everything has to be perfect or else bye bye expensive engine.

Not to mention the cost of running it. Tag an extra hundred bucks (or more) to your fuel costs for a Race weekend and you can pay for FI real quick.

And yes, FI can grenade too. But it won't from a simple fueling issue like nitrous will.
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it's more susceptible to something going wrong.
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I'll say this again.

NITROUS IS THE MOST DANGEROUS POWER ADDER YOU CAN USE.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:48 AM   #102
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Amen!!

Flawless until one stupid thing goes wrong. But that's racing and it'll happen on occasion. I'm still gonna spray a 125 shot.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:01 PM   #103
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I'm glad you agree SS. Took but an instant to cook your mill.
I haven't robbed enough banks lately to be tossing $10k bottom ends in my car though.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #104
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I'm glad you agree SS. Took but an instant to cook your mill.
I haven't robbed enough banks lately to be tossing $10k bottom ends in my car though.
Prob in the blink of an eye part of the piston had melted and was fused to the cylinder wall.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:50 PM   #105
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Well you have to take that into context. He didn't have a nitrous controller. So when he slammed into the limiter it was still spraying. Your going to blow up your car if things are not setup with the proper safetys. That applies to FI, Nitrous, Engine work, etc. If he would have had a properly setup Nitrous Controller it would have cut the spray at 6500rpm before the shift.

And you really think FI won't grenade from bad fuel? LOL. It only takes a bad tank of gas and you'll find out.

Nitrous is for the most part safe if you take the time to set it up properly I'm spraying 100shot on my blower, 900whp on stock bottom. Still going.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:18 PM   #106
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Well you have to take that into context. He didn't have a nitrous controller. So when he slammed into the limiter it was still spraying. Your going to blow up your car if things are not setup with the proper safetys. That applies to FI, Nitrous, Engine work, etc. If he would have had a properly setup Nitrous Controller it would have cut the spray at 6500rpm before the shift.

And you really think FI won't grenade from bad fuel? LOL. It only takes a bad tank of gas and you'll find out.

Nitrous is for the most part safe if you take the time to set it up properly I'm spraying 100shot on my blower, 900whp on stock bottom. Still going.
I lost am enjoying to bad fuel on 2010.

Do I win anything for bring an example of both?
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #107
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Amen!!

Flawless until one stupid thing goes wrong. But that's racing and it'll happen on occasion. I'm still gonna spray a 125 shot.
is that 125 shot measured at the wheels or crank?
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:33 PM   #108
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is that 125 shot measured at the wheels or crank?


.052 nitrous jet that's rated just under 125 at 122. If I said I was spraying 122 shot Id get my balls kicked.

It made a little over 100 rwhp.

No fuel jet. It's a dry kit.
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:40 PM   #109
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I lost am enjoying to bad fuel on 2010.

Do I win anything for bring an example of both?
A new engine, courtesy of yourself
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:41 PM   #110
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how come no window switch. thats just asking for it in my opinion. spraying pre tb is also asking for it on a supercharged car. but we all do things diff. thats why its racing
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:57 PM   #111
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.052 nitrous jet that's rated just under 125 at 122. If I said I was spraying 122 shot Id get my balls kicked.

It made a little over 100 rwhp.

No fuel jet. It's a dry kit.
did you ever get a et with the 125 shot?
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:02 PM   #112
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did you ever get a et with the 125 shot?
Nope. Went 10.0 at 142 on 6 cylinders though. That has to be the fastest v6 camaro to date.
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