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I'd be happy with the numbers it says it puts out, if just the cam would give me 70 more HP and 40 lbs ft more of torque, because I can't afford to go any deeper at this point. The FAST manifold, I know they make several types, but as I stated, a friend has one he didn't use, he went with another type, and it's for sale, I'm guessing a lot lower then the original price. That's why I was asking if it would fit my LS3, that was for and LS7 cathedral port heads, and I believe it will not work with the stock LS3 heads. If not I'm keeping the stock manifold on it now until I buy CNC ported heads next year, but I have to strengthen the diff with a ZL1 Diff, Axles, hubs, shaft, etc. After I broke an axle at the track and driveshaft bolt broke another time, so I upped to the DSS shaft and axles. I also broke the axle gears and cracked the ring and pinion in my stock diff, but I bought a good used one to hold me off until I upgrade that. I was or still may put the Hammerhead diff in it, but I hear there breaking and swapping to the ZL1 or 9'' differentials. Well I have full 3'' exhaust, but only 1 3/4 headers that will be replaced to 2'' headers by American Racing. I hope the 1 3/4'' headers don't hold back to much horsepower, May get a little more torque with them, but there history after next year. I'll keep you posted what I decide, and with the help from everybody that who chimed in, I really appreciate it, thanks again!
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01-25-2017, 09:06 AM | #17 | |
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224 236 .620" .620" 117 Like the other forum member mentioned we have the -HL version that compliments a CNC head. .646" .646" Which we have great outright heads as well as killer deals on head porting & assembly of your castings. If your looking for TQ and throttle response our Stage 1.5 heads may be the winner for you. These are for people not going larger on displacement or a power adder. They feature a CNC exhaust port, CNC valve job,milling, our spring package assembled. If a stroker or power adder is in the future our full program is the way to go as it adds a CNC intake runner to the mix. greater flow #'s but a drop less airspeed when it comes to an intake manifold we offer o.e. intake porting as well as o.e. TB porting that is worth more HP than that aftermarket intake your looking at for less dollars than getting one new proh used seller dependent. |
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01-25-2017, 11:01 AM | #18 | |
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I was thinking about getting a centrifugal supercharger, possibly ProCharger or the Novi from ECS, and ported heads of course. I would love to do it all at once, but The cam is what my plan is at this time, I have another car, so it isn't or doesn't have to be driven every day, but I'm not 20-30 years old anymore, but I'm still a full fledged motorhead! I just want the most out of it, I don't want to over cam it, but if and when I do plan on using a blower, It will be done all at once, but buying a house is more important at this time. I really would like to go with the Night Fury cam, if the heads will flow well enough, I just don't want to over cam it, the thing so many people do that don't understand the way the engine works and how Important it is to have everything matched together. I would love to see some dyno charts with various cams, opposed to the stock cam.
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I'm confident you have a stickshift so you can get away with a little more than a person trying to run a o.e. converter We love prochargers and sell and install them regularly. So make sure you check with us before making a purchase. We have the heads covered in a variety of ways. I have no data on a competitor camshaft as it's my job to sway you towards our proven stuff. As far as dyno charts go I recommend checking out our YouTube channel as we have hundreds of builds on there with before and after results and sometimes idle clips as well. This would give you a good idea on sound and performance. here is one we did many moons ago, there are a bunch there this is the first I saw. https://youtu.be/32NSt63KA18 |
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01-25-2017, 12:53 PM | #20 |
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GPI SS3! Nobody really talks about this cam much, but just search this forum for GPI SS3. That's the cam I want.
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I always recommend keeping the intake duration in the 22X* range for a street driven app.
I run the BTR 3 in my car.
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Thanks I was just reading about the Tick performance polluter cam, has anyone tried this cam? results? It seems like Matt at Tick performance has perfected a cam for the stock LS3 square port heads, with only 3'' exhaust and a CAI it made 483.46 at it looks like 6500 RPM and 439 ft of torque at around 4500, but 400 ftlbs, starting at 3500 RPM"S? But the thread was almost 4 years old!
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Don't have the specs but here is a thread on both there SS2 and SS3 cam on LS3 camaros. Hell the SS2 even has power throughout the band. I copied and pasted from Rhino79 @ GPI "The SS2 is a 227/241 and the SS3 is a 231/245. I have them cut on different LSA and ICL from time to time depending on what the customer is wanting. Our SS1 is a 223/237. They all drive good, the ss3 will obviously have a touch more low rpm cam surge than the other 2 but with good tuning its not bad at all." http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357566
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227/236 117 lsa .600 lift livernois 2c , 227/236 117lsa .649 lift livernois 2c hi lift
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The intake under 230 and a wider lsa 116 to 118 is what you are looking for to have great drive ability
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I understand what you mean, and would be nice if I wanted it that way. What my concern is what duration is best for the stock flowing heads. If they can handle a 234 and 244, 114-116 LSA and make as much power as these heads can flow without any restriction, I'd go for that in a heartbeat. But I don't want to see no bottom end either. Don't know if this is possible yet. But I hear these heads are lazy at low end and even mid range, but scream on top, a little to peaky for a stock head and cam combo from the factory, but still makes plenty part throttle torque I cant see a lot of duration, pulling from a light at a thousand rpm's like it does now, but wide open there's nothing there, the hp really don't start showing it's colors till around 4000 rpm's, and 4700 rpm"s is petty hi for a torque peak, on a stock motor. I think GM was really trying hard to break the 400 hp mark and left the WOT bottom end and mid a little sloppy, I don't know why they didn't use the cathedral port heads, they seem to have a way broader power band that pulls hard low mid and hi rpm's then the L92 LS3 heads, from what I been reading.
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I just thought I'd throw that in. I love N/A horsepower but love the bottom to mid torque, boost would give it! Nothing like a screaming N/A motor though.
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I agree the cathedral port heads give way more off idle power it seems , must be the intake ports driving it there with there narrow tall port
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