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JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 08:02 PM

Can someone please tell me why Pedders Xa coilovers are $1711 and PFADT's equivalent coilovers are $2490? Now I know it is not always the case but generally speaking a higher end product usually cost a bit more. I have heard both companies and their venders sales pitches and how many races they have won so that's not what I am wanting to hear. The fact of the matter both are very good companies and have good customer service. I would just like to know why one coilover cost almost $800 more. Is it because PFADT has been around longer, they have a bigger name, their product is made of lighter weight materials, more expensive materials, etc? Anyone know?

Rob@WretchedMS · 11-22-2012, 08:05 PM

Actually ours are currently on sale, you can see the info in my specials post in my sig.

JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 08:10 PM

Awesome but that didn't help answer my question. Haha

Rob@WretchedMS · 11-22-2012, 08:11 PM

lol, i didn't want to get in to the sales pitch talk, since i can't speak about competitors parts.

bajamoon · 11-22-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JHall651

Can someone please tell me why Pedders Xa coilovers are $1711 and PFADT's equivalent coilovers are $2490? Now I know it is not always the case but generally speaking a higher end product usually cost a bit more. I have heard both companies and their venders sales pitches and how many races they have won so that's not what I am wanting to hear. The fact of the matter both are very good companies and have good customer service. I would just like to know why one coilover cost almost $800 more. Is it because PFADT has been around longer, they have a bigger name, their product is made of lighter weight materials, more expensive materials, etc? Anyone know?

If you want to spend more you can buy the Pedders Super Car coilover, nothing is better than that. And I'm not sure why you think Pfadt is a bigger name than Pedders because Pedders is huge especially in Australia and has a hell of a presence in the U.S.

I like these

http://www.wretchedms.com/product/Xa...o/Default.aspx

JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bajamoon

If you want to spend more you can buy the Pedders Super Car coilover, nothing is better than that. And I'm not sure why you think Pfadt is a bigger name than Pedders because Pedders is huge especially in Australia and has a hell of a presence in the U.S.

I like these

http://www.wretchedms.com/product/Xa...o/Default.aspx

Dude I am not saying they have a bigger name. I am ASKING if the reason PFADT is more expensive is because of any of those examples. Those were questions not statements. As far as being big in Australia that doesn't matter to me. They can't even spell tyre correctly. Hehe.

JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 08:37 PM

Another thing. Why is it that PFADT have their own control arms and tie rods and pedders don't?

Rob@WretchedMS · 11-22-2012, 08:46 PM

GM did a good job on the arms, they are not needed in most cases.

The Toe links we offer the ZL1 units that are better than the other options our there.

The LCA's are very good from the factory.

Also, on the 'when everything goes wrong' end of things, if you make the arms way stiffer, and contact a curb or something, the subframe will fail instead of the inexpensive arms.

Pedders doesn't make parts just to make money, they make parts that are going to fix, improve, or enhance your car. This is the reason that we do not make a Strut Tower Brace for the Camaro, it doesn't need it.

Apex Motorsports · 11-22-2012, 08:52 PM

Rob@WretchedMS · 11-22-2012, 08:56 PM

It's ok, you can open your eyes, there is no reason to hide.

bajamoon · 11-22-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JHall651

Dude I am not saying they have a bigger name. I am ASKING if the reason PFADT is more expensive is because of any of those examples. Those were questions not statements. As far as being big in Australia that doesn't matter to me. They can't even spell tyre correctly. Hehe.

Dude Pfadt isn't more expensive. Companies can charge what they want.

People choose BMR, Pfadt, Eibach, Pedders just because of what they read. I have some Pfadt stuff but I'm in the middle of switching to Pedders. Read and research is all I can say

JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bajamoon

Dude Pfadt isn't more expensive. Companies can charge what they want.

People choose BMR, Pfadt, Eibach, Pedders just because of what they read. I have some Pfadt stuff but I'm in the middle of switching to Pedders. Read and research is all I can say

Why do you say they are not more expensive? They are more expensive. Go look at their sites. What PFADT stuff are you replacing and why?

JusticePete · 11-22-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JHall651

Can someone please tell me why Pedders Xa coilovers are $1711 and PFADT's equivalent coilovers are $2490? Now I know it is not always the case but generally speaking a higher end product usually cost a bit more. I have heard both companies and their venders sales pitches and how many races they have won so that's not what I am wanting to hear. The fact of the matter both are very good companies and have good customer service. I would just like to know why one coilover cost almost $800 more. Is it because PFADT has been around longer, they have a bigger name, their product is made of lighter weight materials, more expensive materials, etc? Anyone know?

FYI - Pedders is a 62 year old company.

JHall651 · 11-22-2012, 10:22 PM

Ok so out of those 62 years how long have they been designing and engineer suspension parts for corvettes and/or camaros?

11-22-2012, 08:02 PM	#29
JHall651 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 478	Can someone please tell me why Pedders Xa coilovers are $1711 and PFADT's equivalent coilovers are $2490? Now I know it is not always the case but generally speaking a higher end product usually cost a bit more. I have heard both companies and their venders sales pitches and how many races they have won so that's not what I am wanting to hear. The fact of the matter both are very good companies and have good customer service. I would just like to know why one coilover cost almost $800 more. Is it because PFADT has been around longer, they have a bigger name, their product is made of lighter weight materials, more expensive materials, etc? Anyone know? __________________ 2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit

11-22-2012, 08:10 PM	#31
JHall651 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 478	Awesome but that didn't help answer my question. Haha __________________ 2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit

11-22-2012, 08:37 PM	#35
JHall651 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 478	Another thing. Why is it that PFADT have their own control arms and tie rods and pedders don't? __________________ 2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit

11-22-2012, 10:22 PM	#42
JHall651 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS LS3 Ashen Grey Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 478	Ok so out of those 62 years how long have they been designing and engineer suspension parts for corvettes and/or camaros? __________________ 2012 2SS/RS, Magna TVS2300, RX Catch Can, Borla S-Type, Pfadt Stage 4 w/ ZL Spec Sway Bars, ADM Custom Boost/AFR Gauges, Hurst Short Throw, Forgestar F14 Matte Black 20x11 & 20x9.5 Deep Concave all 4, Nitto Invo 315/35 & 275/40, Heritage Grill, Sparks Black Grill SS & Trunk SS, P13W Fog Lights (cool white) w/ DRL Harness, Blacked Out Brake light bezels, Xpel Smoke Light Kit

11-22-2012, 08:05 PM	#30
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	Actually ours are currently on sale, you can see the info in my specials post in my sig.

11-22-2012, 08:11 PM	#32
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	lol, i didn't want to get in to the sales pitch talk, since i can't speak about competitors parts.

11-22-2012, 08:46 PM	#36
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	GM did a good job on the arms, they are not needed in most cases. The Toe links we offer the ZL1 units that are better than the other options our there. The LCA's are very good from the factory. Also, on the 'when everything goes wrong' end of things, if you make the arms way stiffer, and contact a curb or something, the subframe will fail instead of the inexpensive arms. Pedders doesn't make parts just to make money, they make parts that are going to fix, improve, or enhance your car. This is the reason that we do not make a Strut Tower Brace for the Camaro, it doesn't need it.

11-22-2012, 08:52 PM	#37
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11-22-2012, 08:56 PM	#38
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	It's ok, you can open your eyes, there is no reason to hide.